tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post407401608392432137..comments2023-06-10T08:56:21.354-07:00Comments on Palin's Deceptions: A Birth Certificate... what would it really show?Audreyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00205515802929831178noreply@blogger.comBlogger754125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-29917737083446311862009-01-24T21:48:00.000-08:002009-01-24T21:48:00.000-08:00Bristol didn't look 5 months pregnant at the conve...Bristol didn't look 5 months pregnant at the convention.<BR/><BR/>She did, however, look 5 months postpartum.indy_girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05846998274875545333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-76815002762387951612009-01-24T09:32:00.000-08:002009-01-24T09:32:00.000-08:00BINGO BINGO AND DOUBLE BINGOBINGO BINGO AND DOUBLE BINGOMargothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01404657942739695532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-10000925174850949462009-01-23T13:53:00.000-08:002009-01-23T13:53:00.000-08:00MeiLing_82 said... "Neither the CEO of the Mat-Su ...MeiLing_82 said... <BR/>"Neither the CEO of the Mat-Su Clinic nor Sarah Palin's doctor would be allowed to make any statement regarding the birth of Trig without the consent of his parents due to HIPPA laws."<BR/><BR/><B>BINGO!!!</B> And, since SP is NOT the mother IMO, she cannot tell the doctor/hospital to say anything, because THE REAL mother did not tell the hospital/doctor to say anything!Littl' Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04700258803385829769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-49911024486376195922009-01-23T00:51:00.000-08:002009-01-23T00:51:00.000-08:00Neither the CEO of the Mat-Su Clinic nor Sarah Pal...Neither the CEO of the Mat-Su Clinic nor Sarah Palin's doctor would be allowed to make any statement regarding the birth of Trig without the consent of his parents due to HIPPA laws.<BR/><BR/>They are pretty stringent and apply to anyone who works in the hospital, even someone who mops up the hospital floors. <BR/><BR/>HIPPA laws help to further the deception!MeiLing_82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01043149042029088470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-63049032316707457412009-01-22T13:55:00.000-08:002009-01-22T13:55:00.000-08:00Feedjit (or however you spell it) won't necessaril...Feedjit (or however you spell it) won't necessarily tell you who is in Wasilla. I am currently showing as Humble, TX. The last time I was on here I was Houston, TX. I am hundreds of miles from Houston and in a big city. Who knows what Wasilla would show up as.<BR/><BR/>JenniferJenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05715427829884909659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-7609497554295425002009-01-22T05:58:00.000-08:002009-01-22T05:58:00.000-08:00I glad to finally see this in an article about SP ...I glad to finally see this in an article about SP and her whining.<BR/><BR/>"It's not unprecedented. The children and spouses of high-profile politicians always draw attention."<BR/><BR/>I believe it happens to every political family either a little or a lot, depending on how it is handled.<BR/><BR/>I remember how the cast of SNL made fun of Julie Nixon and David Eisenhower and read any book about the early first ladies in this country and you will find spouses and kids have always been in the spotlight.<BR/><BR/>You need a little perspective SP. It's the parents who control how the exposure is handled and you are not doing so well.Casa Calvohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11423580030229927638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-83828467640805630072009-01-21T19:16:00.000-08:002009-01-21T19:16:00.000-08:00RE: SP's AP whine.....Sarah can keep saying it ove...RE: SP's AP whine.....<BR/><BR/>Sarah can keep saying it over and over that people are picking on her children, but that isn't it; we are picking on YOU Sarah Heath Palin....because we think you are a liar and unfit to govern even Alaska. <BR/><BR/>Personally, I didn't appreciate your lies and your snark and sneer routine on the campaign trail. I was personally repulsed by your behavior, and so were millions of others. So is it any wonder that people think you untrustworthy? Even in things that you'd think wouldn't be such a big deal? Well, we're cynical; we're cynics.....with good reason to have doubts about what you say...that is, if we can figure out what you're saying. Also.<BR/><BR/>I have looked at pictures of Bristol and have felt such compassion for her. I even feel compassion for poor Levi, And Willow! Piper! Trig!...with glasses!! Who has thrust these people into the spotlight, Sarah Palin? YOU have!<BR/><BR/>I don't think the majority of people with questions about SP's truthfullness have been "picking" on the children. It's the public figure, SP, who rightly has had the focus on her. And writing a letter of recommendation.. AS GOVERNOR.. IS an attempt to help someone get an internship. How can you say otherwise?<BR/><BR/>I will state again..."Falsis in unum, falsis in omnibus."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Ambition is great, but it must be combined with intelligence*. I suppose proof of her lack of intelligence is the fact that she accepted "without blinking" the VP spot.<BR/><BR/>Proof of lack of intelligence on McCain's part was offering it to her.<BR/><BR/>*See: Barack Hussein Obama, President of the United States of America...Yippee!!Mollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15144843125203463042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-38092541509268680462009-01-21T18:53:00.000-08:002009-01-21T18:53:00.000-08:00The comments on the ADN are quite good. I think sh...The comments on the ADN are quite good. I think she's is going to drop a bombshell any minute now...<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/ajwwhareginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04311352941909440862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-11558551924215621032009-01-21T18:51:00.000-08:002009-01-21T18:51:00.000-08:00To Sarah - This Blog in particular has been nothin...To Sarah - This Blog in particular has been nothing if not respectful and sympathetic of your poor children! We totally recognize that they are the victims here.<BR/><BR/>There are really only two possibilities here:<BR/><BR/>1. You gave birth to Trig, but were completely unwilling to provide any evidence of that fact - effectively perpetuating the rumor that Bristol (or someone else close to you) did have him. You chose instead to announce to the world that Bristol was 5 months along at the RNC. You continue to hide Tripp, and thus enable the speculation to go on. <BR/><BR/>2. You did NOT give birth to Trig. Possibly Bristol did. We have said NOTHING negative about her getting pregnant, nor against teen pregnancies in general - they happen. And then subsequently faked a pregnancy, tried to pass off the story of the wild ride. Following that, you touted your family values and abstinence only policies, and your virtue as a mother of a special needs child to a (mostly) unsuspecting public as an integral part of your campaign platform. And now you're complaining about the 'unfair' media.<BR/><BR/>So, which is it? Either the media is making unfair suppositions about your kids, which you have essentially encouraged by offering up such a flimsy story of Trig's delivery OR the media is NOT unfair.jeaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10953441551805906012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-10884063403186424172009-01-21T18:32:00.000-08:002009-01-21T18:32:00.000-08:00I'm amazed at the high traffic volume here--thx wh...I'm amazed at the high traffic volume here--thx whomever pointed out the live feed thingie at the bottom of the main blue page. I came in right around the time that someone from Wasilla did. Oh, and I saw Singapore and Bangalore Kanataka (which is in India--I had to google that). <BR/><BR/>What hath Audrey wrought?Mollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15144843125203463042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-50571626445997944582009-01-21T18:28:00.000-08:002009-01-21T18:28:00.000-08:00At the hospital Lori Tipton says that Bristol did ...At the hospital Lori Tipton says that Bristol did not look like she had given birth seven hours before.<BR/><BR/>Many people seem to mistake Willow and Bristol. Could Lori have seen Willow and made the same mistake?the TV DJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00573986989658454139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-91858401265584137312009-01-21T18:11:00.000-08:002009-01-21T18:11:00.000-08:00A large number of comments have been deleted by th...A large number of comments have been deleted by their author(s). BlueTx?<BR/>Why?LondonBridgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11193898040409581010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-15424644076267457232009-01-21T17:59:00.000-08:002009-01-21T17:59:00.000-08:00LOL! She DEFINITELY is reading this blog - NOW, af...LOL! She DEFINITELY is reading this blog - NOW, after we have been harping on her that she threw Bristol under the bus and is not doing anything to defend her kids, SHE FINALLY is lashing out 'to defend' her kids...<BR/><BR/>Is there anything else we could suggest to her? Like, maybe,... COME OUT WITH THE TRUTH, SP!Littl' Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04700258803385829769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-43372370757700144382009-01-21T17:49:00.000-08:002009-01-21T17:49:00.000-08:00great article-- thanks morgan and tt.it's a relie...great article-- thanks morgan and tt.<BR/><BR/>it's a relief to read a major news story that presses Sarah back when she whines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-50366850991451757032009-01-21T17:34:00.000-08:002009-01-21T17:34:00.000-08:00Re the latest SP whine to the media (and, yes, Sar...Re the latest SP whine to the media (and, yes, Sarah, you are whining). We know that SP is unwilling and/or unable to put these rumors to rest, and as a result, continues to allow her children to be the subject of rumors. But at this point, why doesn't the reporter she is whining to call her on it? If I were a reporter and she continued to whine to me about it, I'd first ask her why she hasn't put these rumors to rest by providing definitive proof, and then ask her point blank to go on record, along with Dr. Baldwin-Johnson and all other physicians and nurses in attendance, stating that Sarah Palin gave birth to Trig on the morning of 4/18 at Mat-Su Hospital. And, then tell her that until she provided definitive proof and on-the-record, public statements from her and all medical staff in attendance, I wouldn't waste my time or my readers time by reporting her ongoing whining and hearsay. <BR/><BR/>(So, Sarah, since we know you or your representatives are reading here, STFU or be prepared to provide proof.)Emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08340612568539538487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-59856334105643941162009-01-21T17:12:00.000-08:002009-01-21T17:12:00.000-08:00I got a couple of comments noting that the links t...I got a couple of comments noting that the links to the AP article on Sarah Palin's latest whine-fest didn't work. <BR/><BR/>I always check the links before I approve comments and they worked when I checked them, but they're not working now. Which is...weird.<BR/><BR/>But let not your hearts be troubled. Here's the same article on HuffPo.<BR/><BR/>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/21/palin-attacks-media-stay_n_159830.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-65846002432192590012009-01-21T16:38:00.000-08:002009-01-21T16:38:00.000-08:00re: the latest AP storyShe is determined to keep u...re: the latest AP story<BR/><BR/>She is determined to keep up the attention on this issue. She may come to regret this action.Casa Calvohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11423580030229927638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-52718008228103397502009-01-21T14:12:00.000-08:002009-01-21T14:12:00.000-08:00http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5...http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jmnVpq0nGcPOacLhEz0w_sLrSBiQD95RP2RO0<BR/><BR/>Palin is talking about the bloggers being mean to her kids AGAIN....ggdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14036647505898307713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-74136955177246289532009-01-21T14:11:00.000-08:002009-01-21T14:11:00.000-08:00Assuming the fake birth scenario, I think "B" has ...Assuming the fake birth scenario, I think "B" has hit something interesting.<BR/><BR/>Combine these facts.<BR/><BR/>1. Lori Tipton says that Bristol did not look like she had given birth seven hours before<BR/><BR/>2. SP calls doctor at 4 A.M., April 17th with leaking fluids and CBJ does not advice her to go to the nearest hospital.<BR/><BR/>3. SP waits until 1 PM after she gives her speech to return to Alaska.<BR/><BR/>4. SP has not released the birth certificate.<BR/><BR/>What scenario would best explain these facts? How about this:<BR/><BR/>At 4 A.M. on April 17th, CBJ calls SP to tell her that Bristol's water has broken and she is about to give birth. Since it would take her at least 10 hours to return to Alaska, CBJ advices her not to hurry back, but to give her speech. At 6:30 A.M., April 17th, Bristol gives birth. <BR/><BR/>Sleeping for the rest of April 17th and all that night, Bristol is well rested by 11:30 AM when Lori Tipton arrives. However SP is exhausted from her overnight trip and is still asleep.<BR/><BR/>The birth certificate lists April 17th as the birthdate and therefore cannot be released.<BR/><BR/>***<BR/>B wrote at January 19 7:14<BR/><BR/>sg, thanks for the reminder of Lori Tipton saying Bristol did not look like she delivered a baby seven hours before.<BR/><BR/>This is evidence against Bristol having Trig after Sarah got to MatSu. Perhaps she could have had him on the 17th by 4 am, when Sarah says she spoke with the doctor. It's somewhat curious that Bristol was at the hospital and that she did not want her picture taken.<BR/>***Jay Raskinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13895996467533233549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-79600854029909545772009-01-21T13:53:00.000-08:002009-01-21T13:53:00.000-08:00Sometimes what looks like logic can take us down a...<I>Sometimes what looks like logic can take us down a road to ugly.</I><BR/><BR/>This comment that someone posted from NJ.com turns the issues around to frame it was real logic and critical reasoning being false, while superficial impressions are what count. 'Ugly' is a characterization of aesthetic value, placing feeling above reality.<BR/><BR/>In essence, this argument states that it would be uncomfortable to look at the what the facts are telling our logical minds, so we'll question the logic rather than our eyes. I think this statement stands in for why MSM doesn't pay attention to this story. They don't want to show their audience something ugly -- which is what all modern media, including journalism, is all about. They correctly surmise that their audience will turn away, and nobody wants that in MSM.<BR/><BR/>Logic <I>can</I> take us down a road to ugly. And if we ever prove that SP did not give birth to Trig it will get very ugly very fast. But what we are doing here doesn't 'look like logic', it IS logic. I guess we just have more fortitude than most people, who are afraid of finding the truth if it will be ugly to see.<BR/><BR/>I've always been confident that our logic in concluding that SP is not Trig's mother is sound. Now I have an explanation why everyone doesn't reach the same conclusion: The truth is too ugly.<BR/><BR/>Dangerous<b><i>Daniel Archangel</i></b>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07084833652283692862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-28509379852025834102009-01-21T13:44:00.000-08:002009-01-21T13:44:00.000-08:00AP just issued an article on "Palin and the Media....AP just issued an article on "Palin and the Media." Here's the link:<BR/>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090121/ap_on_re_us/palin_mediaBlueRidgeMountainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09430245993059557781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-19037982429700101012009-01-21T13:08:00.000-08:002009-01-21T13:08:00.000-08:00Audrey and friends, considering MSM & bloggers...Audrey and friends, considering MSM & bloggers; has anyone considered Rick Sanchez from CNN?kjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01636169959738812063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-62155722218559376972009-01-21T12:50:00.000-08:002009-01-21T12:50:00.000-08:00Ivy,I have to agree that Sarah's comments were int...Ivy,<BR/><BR/>I have to agree that Sarah's comments were intended to emphasize the fact that SHE was giving birth. <BR/><BR/>When I had my kids I missed some work, and I certainly told my boss that I had delivered. But if I had offered up any details about my water breaking or leaking he would have put his fingers in his ears and sang "I'm not listening!". <BR/><BR/>Who would share that kind of information with the whole country? Maybe she was 'outed' by her father, but I think you're right that she was just overstating her case to make everyone very sure that SHE was having the baby.jeaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10953441551805906012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-82457685862733029292009-01-21T12:41:00.000-08:002009-01-21T12:41:00.000-08:00NextChapter -I agree with you that the family pict...NextChapter -<BR/><BR/>I agree with you that the family picture with Bristol in the greenish sweater was pre-dated as 2006. I saw the title of it during a 2007 webarchive search, but the photo was unavailable. During 2006 the webarchive search comes up with the other picture (family on stage, Piper with her hair up). Unfortunately, I can't access that anymore, but it was on the Alaska governor's official website, and it was definitely dated 2007...jeaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10953441551805906012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-39973501106566488532009-01-21T11:55:00.000-08:002009-01-21T11:55:00.000-08:00B wrote: "Don G, did you see Audrey's post from th...B wrote: "Don G, did you see Audrey's post from the fall about that zoo picture? I don't believe there was ever an answer as to who the two teen or young adult women are. Some people saw Brsitol or Willow or both, or Lauden Bruce, or maybe some random Zoo visitors. There are other photos taken around then of Bristol in which she doesn't look pregnant. The absence of Tripp now suggests she was not 4 mos. along then."<BR/><BR/>I did see the comment where it said the two girls weren't id'ed. Now I'm wondering why this lead hasn't been followed up. I don't care really what it proves as much as the fact that I remain in doubt as to why there are few pictures of Bristol and those that do exist seem to consistently not show a clear view of her belly. This is just another one where if the girl is Bristol then it's allowed to remain for us because the leaves got in the way. Fwiw, I don't think a positive ID or lack of IDif it's not here, would hurt a bit. And I do think it's worth lightening up the picture a bit so we can have a close look. Regardless of what it proves or disproves.Rob G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10632030310119287291noreply@blogger.com