tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post4548885698466992728..comments2023-06-10T08:56:21.354-07:00Comments on Palin's Deceptions: A Biology LessonAudreyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00205515802929831178noreply@blogger.comBlogger137125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-49399576186455975572008-12-30T02:14:00.000-08:002008-12-30T02:14:00.000-08:00About Dr. Baldwin-Johnson. My understanding is th...About Dr. Baldwin-Johnson. My understanding is that she's not an OB-GYN, and not on staff at the hospital where she is alleged to have delivered the baby. <BR/><BR/>I can't imagine that her insurance company is too happy about this. Her comments have been measured and careful -- I question whether she was the attending physician at the delivery of Trigg.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I see from the online nursery at the hospital that the only birth she is listed as attending is one on the day before Bristol was cited in a car accident outside of the family health center she was a patient at (when she was supposed to be home for mono), on 2/7/08. <BR/><BR/><BR/>It's extremely peculiar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-91208692750418254712008-12-30T02:04:00.000-08:002008-12-30T02:04:00.000-08:00SP also downplayed the seriousness of her getting ...SP also downplayed the seriousness of her getting on a plane by discounting her contractions. She admitted in one of the news accounts that in addition to the ruptured amniotic sac and leakage, she was having contractions, "but not active labor". It's a bizarre comment from a woman who had been through four previous labors and deliveries. Non-productive contractions can turn into hard labor in the snap of your fingers. <BR/><BR/>One thing that I haven't seen anyone talk about is the science involved in flying itself on a human body, particularly the fetus's body. When a plane takes off and cruises at 35,000 feet, then descends and lands, and then does it all over again, that creates tremendous pressure on the uterus and the fetus. It's bound to move the labor process along, and without amniotic fluid to cushion the fetus, I'm shocked that this wasn't widely discussed at the time as an opportunity to talk about today's modern independent business women, pregnancy and travel. Yes, the cabin is pressurized, but anyone who has flown with a head cold against doctor's orders knows the agony of clogged eustacean tubes and the permanent damage to your ear drums that can occur. <BR/><BR/>To be candid, I don't understand anything about the editorial decisions that were made during the reporting of this story by women or men in the media. This was a lapse that was grossly obvious to anyone in the health field, in business, or who have had babies and rely on flying as their means of transportation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-63830747704478970332008-12-26T10:23:00.000-08:002008-12-26T10:23:00.000-08:00Fascinating reading! But I still think Trig is SP...Fascinating reading! But I still think Trig is SP's child.<BR/><BR/>The reason I don't think the child is Bristol's is because he has Down's Syndrome. Very rare for a mother of her age, but extremely common in mothers over 40.<BR/><BR/>I can't imagine why SP would fake a pregnancy for anyone else, except Willow, and the evidence here seems to rule that out. Faking a pregnancy is totally bizarre, requiring extraordinaty reasons.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, SP is an absolutely terrible mother, who would certainly put her own career and convenience before the health and safety of any child she was carrying.<BR/><BR/>She also has no trouble lying. She does, however, have a lot of trouble getting facts straight and keeping them straight. However, she thinks that once she has said something, it must be true and so she will not admit lying or even mispeaking. Hence she has gotten into a tangle with respect to the story of the birth. Anything more she says on the subject will show what a wretched mother she is and so she won't say anything more.<BR/><BR/>Just my opinion. But I'm curious enough to read more on the subject!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-34894093806606376552008-12-03T11:50:00.000-08:002008-12-03T11:50:00.000-08:00all I can say is THANK YOU.having given birth afte...all I can say is THANK YOU.<BR/>having given birth after my water broke twice, the Sarah Palin birthing story including the flight from Texas to Alaska AFTER a speech does nothing but infuriate me every time I've heard it.Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16062266088887216663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-19805497892434182092008-12-02T07:22:00.000-08:002008-12-02T07:22:00.000-08:00Sarah Palin is telling a lie! I had 6 children! He...Sarah Palin is telling a lie! I had 6 children! Her story is impossible! Since she is seeking the highest office in the land, the truth should be told!! Keep Digging!<BR/>If she adopted Trig for political reasons, then the story should be told, if he his her daughter's child, the truth should be told.<BR/>The American people are sick of lies!!<BR/>Jackie, in JacksonvilleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-13684642895363733412008-11-24T17:51:00.000-08:002008-11-24T17:51:00.000-08:00If Palin adopted Trig from one of her kids, Trig w...If Palin adopted Trig from one of her kids, Trig would have health care on her policy. I don't think that Bristol, for example, would continue to have health care on her mother's policy after she reached age 18 or so.<BR/><BR/>If this is what happened,though, why not just announce that you have adopted a child? If there was a clamor to know when this adopted baby was born, have a reputable doctor announce the time and date of birth. End of story.<BR/><BR/>Instead, Palin avoided the birth question entirely by announcing (in front of the world no less)that her daughter Bristol was 5 months pregnant and thereby couldn't be the mother of a 4 month Trig. <BR/><BR/>This to me is the key issue. Why not just announce an adoption back in March or April (whenever the baby was born) and skip the goofy water breaking in Texas and cloak and dagger nonsense?<BR/><BR/>IvyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-89992685493000996862008-11-24T07:44:00.000-08:002008-11-24T07:44:00.000-08:00WSWoman, I have read that many insurance policies ...WSWoman, I have read that many insurance policies exclude coverage for conditions like DS, and I don't know whether the age limits for covering dependent children are waived when a disabled child who remains dependent. So the Native American care could help eventually. Trig is apparently covered by insurance now as Sarah's child, but I doubt he would be as Bristol's child. You are right that the same would be true if Sarah adopted him. -B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-26795916855413109202008-11-23T18:10:00.000-08:002008-11-23T18:10:00.000-08:00I think that Trig looks like Levi Johnston. Levi h...I think that Trig looks like Levi Johnston. Levi has a very flat face and some other features very similar to a person with downs.<BR/><BR/>Also, if Trig weighed over 6 lbs at birth which was 1 month early, he's a pretty big baby. (By the looks of him in new born pictures, I have to question this weight). Anyway, what I'm getting at is that most downs babies have relatively low birth weights. Trig looked like a pretty hefty newborn...especially considering he was born a month early.<BR/><BR/>I think Sarah is lying. But I'm not sure if she does it intentionally. I think that by the way she rambles incessantly and says nothing that she may have some sort of mental illness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-47178153658561605162008-11-23T14:25:00.000-08:002008-11-23T14:25:00.000-08:00To Anonymous who wrote on 11/22 at 4:55:If Sarah h...To Anonymous who wrote on 11/22 at 4:55:<BR/><BR/>If Sarah has health coverage, but adopted Trig, he would be covered, probably for as long as his mom is covered, since he would always be a dependent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-59814961218095716012008-11-22T16:55:00.000-08:002008-11-22T16:55:00.000-08:00The lifetime Native American health care requires ...The lifetime Native American health care requires a blood connection, but no particular %. So adoption wouldn't be good enough. <BR/><BR/>If Trig were Bristol's child, he could be covered. But if he is Bristol's and is claimed to be Sarah's and Todd's, he's covered, but sounds like fraud. If he is Sarah's sister's child, for example, he's not covered.<BR/><BR/>I read about the "state-based, federally funded program, Alaska Area Native Health Service" at washingtonindependent.com.<BR/><BR/>I don't know about a governor having lifetime health insurance coverage, but whatever Sarah's policy, I doubt it would cover a grandchild. (Bristol may even have to remain unmarried to be covered.) <BR/><BR/>Health care could be part of Sarah's motive in saying she gave birth to Trig. She is not dumb (just inarticulate), and DS is an expensive lifelong condition. -B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-824635281416998302008-11-21T20:41:00.000-08:002008-11-21T20:41:00.000-08:00Regarding comments by Anonymous from 11/20 at 8:10...Regarding comments by Anonymous from 11/20 at 8:10, p.m.:<BR/><BR/>You suggested that the baby, if adopted, would not qualify for lifetime care based on Native ancestry.<BR/><BR/>There has been debate back & forth on this blog about whether someone with 1/32 Native ancestry would even qualify for this.<BR/><BR/>Does it matter if the baby is adopted or not? Sounds like a weird question, but is the guarantee of lifetime care based on Native heritage based on blood or culture/family? What if a Native family adopted a white baby? Yeah, it probably would not happen, but if it did, would the child qualify because he was raised in a Native culture, or not qualify because he was "biologically" "white"?<BR/><BR/>And if Bristol or Willow was the mother, Trig could also have some Native ancestry on his biological father's side, increasing the percentage of Native ancestry. If we don't know who fathered Trig, we wouldn't know this.<BR/><BR/>I think I read somewhere that a governor of Alaska who serves X number of years (5?) has lifetime health insurance. So Sarah might have lifetime health insurance along with, presumably, her spouse and dependant children. Bristol (and Trig if he is her son) would not be dependant forever, but Trig would be if Sarah & Todd adopted him, as Trig most likely will not ever be totally independent. So if Bristol birthed Trig & Sarah & Todd adopted him, Trig would most likely have lifetime medical insurance, Native ancestry or not, due to his mom's job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-26691439341610336512008-11-21T10:04:00.000-08:002008-11-21T10:04:00.000-08:00she looks totally pregnant to me in that hiking vi...she looks totally pregnant to me in that hiking video. her face is fuller, and she's wearing a very big jacket that doesn't go a little concave when she's walking swiftly outside in the wind. she's an odd one, for sure, but i think she's sporting a baby bump in that video.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-9764944396006354112008-11-21T04:55:00.000-08:002008-11-21T04:55:00.000-08:00Anonymous at 6:47 PM: I think you've nailed the mo...Anonymous at 6:47 PM: I think you've nailed the most likely scenario. So when do you think Bristol conceived Trig and who do you think the father is? I do agree that the lifetime health benefit is something Sarah would have sought for Trig, since she seems to be so adept at taking everything she can from the state. It will be interesting to see when Bristol delivers this time around...<BR/><BR/>Liz from NHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-8944740474805847342008-11-21T04:46:00.000-08:002008-11-21T04:46:00.000-08:00it was my understanding that 1) she received a pho...it was my understanding that <BR/>1) she received a phonecall <BR/>2) she then said: MY water broke<BR/>3) she insisted on giving her speech <BR/>4) flew home, flightattendants served a happy chatty ladyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-26492561440031124712008-11-20T20:10:00.000-08:002008-11-20T20:10:00.000-08:00Dangerous, I suppose Track could have impregnated ...Dangerous, <BR/><BR/>I suppose Track could have impregnated an underage girl, but I mentioned him as the underage partner, of an older woman. Someone has commented several times that if Sherry Johnston were Trig's mother, that would explain both Mercedes calling Trig her brother and the likelihood of DS. A potential criminal charge could motivate both sides to hide a pregnancy.<BR/><BR/>There's also that reference to Track's girlfriend traveling with the Palin campaign as a babysitter. Could she be the mother, and want to stay near her baby? <BR/><BR/>If Molly Heath had a need to hide a pregnancy, perhaps because of her custody battle, a simple adoption by Sarah wouldn't work. Also, Sarah adopting a DS baby thought to be unrelated to her at a time when she is trying to run a state wouldn't seem wise to many voters.<BR/><BR/>Sarah needed to give birth to Trig so that Todd would be the biological father so that the lifetime health care option would apply to Trig. Not so if adopted.<BR/><BR/>I don't think Sherry and Molly need to be dragged into this drama; I just disagree with you that mothers other than Bristol and Willow can be totally ruled out. <BR/><BR/>I also disagree with you that Willow is a prime candidate. She, unlike Bristol, appears to be normal and happy, which she almost certainly wouldn't be if she had recently gone through a pregnancy and delivery at her young age.<BR/><BR/>Probably Bristol had Trig earlier than 4/18 and is due later than 12/18. But speculating on Trig's mother just goes to Sarah's motive. The real question is whether she lied about being pregnant and giving birth. -B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-15209929045253611622008-11-20T18:47:00.000-08:002008-11-20T18:47:00.000-08:00Here's my theory:Trig is Bristol's baby. The origi...Here's my theory:<BR/>Trig is Bristol's baby. The original intent was to have Bristol give up the child for adoption. Bristol was hidden away with "terrible mono"-tho stories were going around she was pregnant. They wanted to give up the child for adoption, and hide the fact that SP, the "no sex before marriage" and "no sex education" queen, could have a child who had gotten pregnant. But, with adoption,pre-natal tests are conducted. There was an early indication in the sonnogram that the child had DS. The real test would come from an amniocentesis, with the results coming in around the 6- 6 1/2 month time period. The adoption's off-few couples want to adopt a DS child. So the Palin family, having thought the child would be adopted, had to think fast. After a few weeks Sarah announces she is pregnant. Sarah, being the most driven/ambitious person most of us have ever seen, goes ahead and goes to the conference, looking her glamorous self, her daughter goes into labor, SP has to fly home and arrive at the hospital in the middle of the night when no one is around, and get the baby. Because, how long can you hide a baby? The hand over had to happen quickly-babies cry-tho none of us has ever seen poor Trig cry.<BR/>So. that's my story and I am sticking to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-49135638208003078512008-11-20T17:34:00.000-08:002008-11-20T17:34:00.000-08:00Someone asked:"Does anyone know which came first, ...Someone asked:<BR/><BR/>"Does anyone know which came first, her father saying her water broke in Texas, or her statement of what happened?"<BR/><BR/>Excellent question. If her father said it first, why would he do so? If Sarah was not pregnant with Trig, and she had called her parents to say she was returning to Alaska for whatever reason (Bristol giving birth? Jaundice treatments?), then Mr. Heath was trying to give details to make the childbirth story plausible. (Lies told by 2 people are more plausible than lies told by only 1 person.) And this assumes that the Heaths were in on the hoax, which is a reasonable assumption.<BR/><BR/>If Sarah said it first, then Mr. Heath was simply confirming the tale by adding his input.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-88675944597691064942008-11-20T11:57:00.000-08:002008-11-20T11:57:00.000-08:00For the anonymous poster above, I still don't see ...For the anonymous poster above, I still don't see any plausible reason why SP would fake a pregnancy for Molly and keep the baby. I can understand adopting Molly's child, maybe, but why the subterfuge of faking a pregnancy, which only raises the stakes for the plot to be foiled.<BR/><BR/>The thin reasons you posit for such a scenario could just as easily be overcome by Molly giving up the baby for regular adoption. She would still have to be pregnant and anyone near her would have to explain what happened to the baby. So there's no logic in that scenario at all as a motivation for either Molly or SP!<BR/><BR/>As far as SP faking for Track's indiscretion with a young girl, where is the girl's motivation for going along with it? Again, she still has to be pregnant and have the child, not matter the circumstances of the pregnancy, then agree to give up the child. This just increases the potential level of scandal, not decrease it. Maybe that girl's mother would do it, but SP's motivation is also dubious in your scenario.<BR/><BR/>I place these sorts of theories under the 'wild speculation' banner because they don't address the entire fact pattern. SP covering for one of her daughters, however, aligns both the parties' motivations and explains their actions then and now.<BR/><BR/>The similarities of these circumstances to the much-mentioned 'Desperate Housewives' episode doesn't indicate that covering for a daughter's pregnancy and having a "family baby" is the stuff of fiction. Instead, 'Desperate Housewives' used rare but real life situation and fictionalized it somewhat because viewers would relate to the characters' motivations.<BR/><BR/>That's the critical part of any theory. One must ask whether people would really act as they have AND what would motivate them to act that way to serve their own interests. If the plot you concoct would not be believable by the audience, it will not ring true and, hence, is false.<BR/><BR/>DangerousAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-58306028625137239982008-11-20T01:08:00.000-08:002008-11-20T01:08:00.000-08:00Quote peacay 8.24pm Statements by SP's father - he...Quote peacay 8.24pm <I>Statements by SP's father - hearsay. Tick-tock on the day of the birth - speculation and hearsay.</I><BR/><BR/>I think there is actual evidence of him saying it rather than someone making it up. <BR/><BR/>So peacay you believe someone on her 5th pregnancy would make a speech, take 2 flights, drive to a small hospital way past a big hospital to give birth?<BR/><BR/>In regards to what other people have said SP wanted Trig to be born on Alaskan soil, it may well be true, but wouldn’t she have just went to the bigger hospital rather than to mat-su hospital? Both are on Alaskan soil!<BR/><BR/>I apologise Punkinbugg about the myspace thing, I did read the comments on Johnnies site but not the one I said I couldn’t find her on, I never thought she’d come under a symbol *doh* (I thought her name would have came up lol). <I>This is exactly why my kids' profiles are set to private!!</I> ditto for my account lol. I’ll have another snoop at it later.<BR/><BR/>dipsydoodlenoodleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-29317192221142359352008-11-19T23:44:00.000-08:002008-11-19T23:44:00.000-08:00Another perspective that I haven't seen here...If ...Another perspective that I haven't seen here...<BR/><BR/>If Trig was Bristol's son, and if Bristol went "missing" for a while, I don't know why Sarah necessarily had to fake a pregnancy. It would make a lot more sense and be a lot more politically astute to choose to adopt a DS baby. This way, a baby could remain in the family and SP would look like a heroine for saving this child while standing up for the option of adoption.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-71919938895343557862008-11-19T15:14:00.000-08:002008-11-19T15:14:00.000-08:00Here's how I see it:1. SP's story is all true--Thi...Here's how I see it:<BR/>1. SP's story is all true--This would mean that she is a) Incredibly stupid to put herself and her baby at risk. So stupid as to disqualify her from public office, not to mention parenthood. b) mentally ill to the point that she should be on disability (arguably, being a politician is the same thing) c)so loyal to Alaska that she does not deem the rest of the United States as good enough a place for one of her children to be born, to the point that she thinks it would be better for the child to die than to be born outside Alaska, and that it would be better for her to die in childbirth attempting to have that child in Alaska and her children grow up without a mommy (although they're essentially growing up without a mommy as it is). In this case, she shouldn't even want to be VP of the United States d) She didn't want a Downs kid, but couldn't abort, being an anti-abortion Christian and all. Instead she gambled that she would go into labor on the plane home in hopes of Trig dying. This wouldn't technically be an abortion, although the intent and end result would be the same. This raises the question of whether the state should be involved in pregnancies to ensure such abortions are prevented, or even just to ensure that the unborn are protected from negligent or reckless mothers. <BR/>2. SP isn't Trig's mom--In this case, she's not just a liar, but a truly bizarre person. If Trig is Bristol's baby, SP is so old fashioned that she believes in sending away pregnant teens to have babies, give them up for adoption, and pretending nothing happened afterward so as to protect the girl's reputation. Is this the type of person anyone wants running a daycare, much less a state or a country?<BR/><BR/>But let's get back to assuming the kid is SP's. Let's also assume that SP was right and reasonable in giving over her and her unborn child's fate to God. If I read Leviticus correctly, because she gave birth to a son, she should have waited 41 days before going to church. Are there any records of her going to church before the 41 days were up? When the 41 days were up, she should have then sacrificed a lamb and a dove (Leviticus 12). I haven't seen any mention of her having done this. Other "abominations" that SP has committed, according to Leviticus, include failing to testify at the first troopergate hearing (Leviticus 5), not returning all of the clothes the RNC bought her (Leviticus 6), getting on the plane and dripping amniotic fluid onto a seat in which others would sit (Leviticus 15), sacrificing poor pregnant Bristol to the god RNC (Leviticus 18), telling lies, such as insisting the troopergate report that actually found her guilty of abusing her authority had found her completely innocent or insisting Harry Potter hadn't been written while she was mayor (Leviticus 19), gossiping about Obama (Leviticus 19). Again, I'm no Biblical scholar, but according to Leviticus, it would appear that God's will is that for these transgressions SP should be cast out, stoned or otherwise smote. At least the majestic moose has cloven hooves and chews its cud, so she's safe on her dietary choices, as far as that goes (Leviticus 11). Unless she didn't properly drain its blood, in which case it's her bad (Leviticus 17)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-82797134987817859522008-11-19T12:51:00.000-08:002008-11-19T12:51:00.000-08:00To peacay, loafingoaf, etc - If you don't like wha...To peacay, loafingoaf, etc - <BR/><BR/>If you don't like what is being said here, why are you here? Do you really think your naysaying is going to change anyone's mind? Or do you just get your kicks sniping at people who don't agree with you? Your insults are like walking into someone's house and criticizing their furniture. Move along and start your own blog if you don't agree with what's posted here. <BR/><BR/>Audrey - long time reader, first time poster. I'm not sure Andrew Sullivan did you any favors linking to your site, especially considering that you post comments and he doesn't. Anyway, I've long admired your thoroughness, diligence, and objectivity in your posts here. I am amazed that you are able to find the time to devote to this, but I am one of the many that are glad that you do. Have you ever considered a career change from lactation consultant to either investigative journalist or lawyer? :) Keep up the good work, and remember that lots of us here appreciate what you're doing.<BR/><BR/>S. in ChicagoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-70525450672649325592008-11-19T12:07:00.000-08:002008-11-19T12:07:00.000-08:00Dangerous,I'm with you except on this:"Nobody can ...Dangerous,<BR/><BR/>I'm with you except on this:<BR/>"Nobody can present a plausible reason why SP, the high-profile person who would be closely watched and whose reputation was critical to her life, would fake a pregnancy for anyone other one of her daughters."<BR/><BR/>What if Track was the under-age partner in statutory rape? Sarah might go to great lengths to avoid her family being entangled in that scandal, or maybe just the scandal of Track fathering a child. <BR/><BR/>Even more so, Sarah might adopt her sister Molly's child. At age 42, Molly was a little more likely to get pregnant than Sarah at 44, but with similar odds for a DS child. Molly was beginning (or soon to begin) her third marriage, with children from her two previous marriages. It's possible she couldn't provide health care for a DS child, while Sarah and Todd could (through insurance and the lifetime Native American care). It's also possible that a pregnancy or special needs child could have affected Molly's ugly custody battles with Trooper Wooten, especially if she were unwed. (I'm not sure when she married Hackett.) <BR/><BR/>Certainly the Heath and Palin families stepped in to aid Molly's divorce and custody fights -- resulting in the politically-damaging Troopergate. They likewise could have stepped in to rescue family baby Molly from this situation, especially if she were considering abortion, by having Sarah raise Trig. <BR/><BR/>And just as Bristol "disappeared" almost a year ago, Molly Heath McCann Wooten McCann Hackett, unlike sister Heather Bruce, seems to have "disappeared" until she had to testify this fall. -B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-82549013641521568012008-11-19T10:46:00.000-08:002008-11-19T10:46:00.000-08:00Wow, lots of new comments and speculation that cer...Wow, lots of new comments and speculation that certain posters seem ready to decide is conclusive on all sides.<BR/><BR/>Having pursued this investigation actively for several months now, and with Audrey's very intelligent lead, we can effectively dismiss many of the newly posted conjectures:<BR/><BR/>1) Downs Syndrome -- Any assertion that Trig's DS is either evidence or proof that SP is Trig's mother because of the odds is a complete fallacy. It's cart-before-the-horse reasoning. My wife is over 40 but that doesn't make her any more likely to be Trig's mother.<BR/><BR/>2) SP has two conflicting stories, both of which belie her assertion that she is Trig's mother. <BR/><BR/>a) When she announced to the world she was 7-month pregnant she didn't look pregnant (a near impossibility to hide given her frame and her being closely observed by dozens of people) and hadn't even told close family nor friends. Her reasons for not doing so are implausible on their face. (See available coverage on Audrey's web site.)<BR/><BR/>b) Her labor and delivery story is implausible on its face (again, see info on Audrey's site) and any explanation ot either the defending the accuracy of her account or to explain away the story while still asserting that SP is Trig's mother produced more inconsistencies.<BR/><BR/>3) Nobody can present a plausible reason why SP, the high-profile person who would be closely watched and whose reputation was critical to her life, would fake a pregnancy for anyone other one of her daughters. This central issue refutes any speculation that someone other than Bristol, Willow or Sarah is Trig's mother.<BR/><BR/>So I welcome everyone to the party, but we are WAY ahead of you on refuting any speculation that doesn't address the core issues above. This includes defense of SP's assertion that she is Trig's mother, which she could easily prove to anyone with unembarassing documentation, but hasn't.<BR/><BR/>One party baldly asserted that Bristol and Willow have been watched closely for the past two years so they can't be Trig's mother. Audrey has painstakingly documented Bristol's whereabouts and some credible eyewitness testimony that seems to indicate some contrary conclusions. They are that a) rumors Bristol was pregnant spread from late 2007 into 2008 and b) witnesses who would have known did not observe Bristol pregnant.<BR/><BR/>There has been little to no prove of Willow's whereabouts during the crucial time frame in the beginning of 2008 -- no pictures or records or accounts or eyewitness testimony. I'd love to have some since although she is very young, she is capable of having a child and there are no other facts in evidence that would rule her out as Trig's mother. There is an ick-factor of people not wanting to go there.<BR/><BR/>DangerousAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4091845104881454109.post-82013643279935482002008-11-19T08:09:00.000-08:002008-11-19T08:09:00.000-08:00Hi dipsydoodlenoodle,You're right -- Mercedes John...Hi dipsydoodlenoodle,<BR/><BR/>You're right -- Mercedes Johnston's Myspace is set to private, but I looked at two other kids' Myspace accounts (Kaila and Johnnie - Silver Salmon's find) and they have Mercedes listed as THEIR friend. Her user name starts with an asterisk *..mercede..* , so it is not listed in Kaila's "M" friends, it is listed under her "#" friends. IOW the friends whose user names start with a symbol or number, not a letter.<BR/><BR/>So I started with Silver Salmon's post and went on the "mind-numbing" adventure of looking at Wasilla's various Myspace accounts. Again, even though Mercedes' personal Myspace is set to private, anything she POSTS on a "public" Myspace is readable, and she left quite a few comments on Kaila's Myspace and a few on Johnnie's, and I know it's her.<BR/><BR/> Here is one of her messages, posted to Kaila on June 22, 2006 - This was cut and pasted verbatim, but I have ***'d the bad word for her:<BR/><BR/>22 Jun 2006 12:33 AM<BR/>Babe, i love you to death BUT WAHT THE F*** IS THIS, ....8..I AM HURT!!<BR/><BR/>Love always and Forever, yours truly:)<BR/>mErCeDe MaRiE jOhNsToN <BR/><BR/><BR/>Also, even if a kid's Myspace profile is set to private, you can see their picture and their "motto". I thought the middle girl on "Victoria's" Myspace page looked a lot like Bristol. I'm still poking around because you KNOW Bristol, Willow and Levi all still have Myspace accounts to keep up with their friends. It's just a matter of finding what alias user names they are using...! None of Mercedes' posts mention the Palin's, but I copied them into a word doc, just in case they were erased later on.<BR/><BR/>You said you were logged in to Myspace, which is necessary to view these posts.<BR/><BR/>This is exactly why my kids' profiles are set to private!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com