Monday, February 16, 2009

The Purloined Letter...

…is Edgar Allan Poe’s famous story of the theft of a potentially damaging letter, and the clever way in which the amateur sleuth C. Auguste Dupin recovers the letter. Perhaps we “pathetic bloggers” are modern-day incarnations of Dupin, using our wits (and the Internet!) to try to solve the mystery of Trig Palin’s birth. In this spirit, let’s turn our attention back to another letter – this one is not “purloined” but is suspicious and certainly deserves more attention than it has received in this real-life “detective story.”

The Purloined Letter, like the CBJ letter, is a wonderful play between revelation and concealment. CBJ's letter would appear to be something simple but close examination reveals that the structure and contents are actually highly suggestive (one could say convoluted) and open to many interpretations.

To review: after delaying for weeks, at 10:30 p.m. on November 3, 2008, barely hours before Election Day, the McCain-Palin Campaign released a letter regarding Sarah Palin’s medical history. The odd timing of the release of this letter ensured that it would not receive any scrutiny prior to the election, and given their election defeat the next day, it has received little scrutiny since. In fact, ask most anyone who could be considered "pro-Palin," and they will tell you, indignantly, that of course Gov. Palin released her medical "records." In fact, she never did anything of the sort.

Questions surrounding the letter were raised several months ago on the blog, but I did not have the opportunity at the time to investigate or address them in any detail, so frankly, this issue went on the back burner. Then, in early January, there was an extraordinary email exchange between Governor Palin and the editor of the Anchorage Daily News, Pat Dougherty. These emails made clear that ADN had assigned reporter Lisa Demer to report on the conspiracy story itself, to document how, what Dougherty calls "nutty nonsense" has nevertheless persisted for so many months. In conjunction with this, Demer was to try to “report the facts of Trig's birth thoroughly enough to kill the nonsense once and for all.” The amazing thing is that the emails reveal that, despite contacting Dr. Baldwin-Johnson (and others), Demer still – as recently as two months ago - did not receive the information ADN needed to “put this nonsense to rest.”

How is one to interpret this? Reading between the lines, I believe that ADN contacted Dr. Baldwin-Johnson to corroborate the birth story on several occasions – but she has not, ever, in clear, simple, unequivocal terms, been willing to do so. This is - in fact - astonishing.

Cathy Baldwin Johnson has never given a simple statement that Trig Palin was born at Mat-Su Hospital on April 18th, that Sarah Palin is his biological mother, and that she - Dr. Baldwin-Johnson - was physically present at the delivery. She would not do this at the following junctures:
1. Back in April, when Trig Palin was allegedly born. She gave ambiguous statements to the press about the circumstances of the birth (several of which contradicted explicitly statements Gov. Palin made) and then she clammed up.
2. On August 31st (when announcing it would have scotched the necessity of announcing – the next day – seventeen year old Bristol's pregnancy);
3. In the letter released before the election
4. To the ADN in December when they asked AGAIN.

The questions that this leaves are astounding. Dougherty states unequivocally that he has no personal doubts that Sarah Palin is Trig Palin's mother, yet never is willing to confront – head on – the rank inconsistency that the Governor's own physician will not corroborate her birth story.

As a result, I decided that it was time to delve further into the questions raised by the letter, and Dr. Baldwin-Johnson’s involvement in this case. I asked one of my research assistants to summarize the problems with the letter; that summary is here. We are releasing it in pdf form as it is quite long - five pages - and contains numerous legal citations.

To summarize this pdf: This letter is the only documentation that has ever been provided by anyone about the circumstances of Trig Palin's birth. Yet it was not released by the doctor; it was not actually signed by the doctor; it has never been authenticated by the doctor; it contains information which the doctor could not know first-hand; it contains erroneous information; and most notably, it does not ever say that Sarah Palin gave birth to Trig Palin. The letter's unprofessional appearance, modified electronic signature and lack of clear factual statements give rise to numerous questions about its legitimacy, and some have suggested that these may be a deliberate ploy to allow Dr. Baldwin-Johnson “deniability” – that is, grounds to claim that she is not legally responsible for the letter.

The problems with the November 3rd letter raise new questions about Dr. Baldwin-Johnson’s involvement, not only with the letter, but with the entire mystery of Trig’s birth. It is time to explore the medical, ethical and legal issues regarding this case.

To be continued…

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cooky said...

Apologies if this posts twice, came bouncing back with a new verification word.

Noted here http://tiny.cc/LtN2G author states Todd Palin sells fish to PeterPan Fisheries. A visit to their website features wild Alaskan salmon. SP also references that she and Todd are commercial fishermen and sell to PeterPan during her visit to southeast Alaska during her campaign for Gov.

Thus, I'm wondering if the baby food jar featuring wild Alaska salmon is simply a memento or promotional in some way and has nothing to do with what we are discussing here.

Also interesting the author from the link above states SP owns three homes. Does she? If so, where are the other two homes located?

Mary G. said...

I was looking over the Bristol/GVS interviews again, because of Bristol's answers, and her bizarre hesitations (the one about "where's Levi now?" was pretty obvious--she almost stumbled before returning to the script: workin' on finishing his education, getting set up for a career...).
Anyway, I found Bristol's attack on "evil" tabloids rather curious--when Greta asked her what, specifically, bothered Bristol, she again stammered and then came out with this: that her mom would "make me have the baby" when it was "my choice"--and Greta interjected: "your decision" and Bristol echoed "my decision"-- so, other than its quasi defense of the prochoice movement (which we know is verboten in the Palin universe), I don't recall this particular media "slur." The tabloids were saying, instead, that Trig wasn't Sarah's, that Bristol's RNC pregnancy was a cover for this fact that Sarah took Trig, etc., etc. You can listen to it here, starting at around the 5.35 mark:
http://tinyurl.com/cbo685
In light of the other "freudian" slips, I started to think that Bristol was actually saying, "no, my mother didn't steal my baby. I let her do it; it was my choice to go along with that."
Is this too much of a stretch?

midnightcajun said...

How many people think it's possible that Sarah claimed Trig as her own not so much to cover up for Bristol as because she saw it as a brilliant way to play to her political base?

This is where I think the timing of Sarah's expectations of becoming VP are interesting. While I don't think the woman is very bright, she is incredibly shrewd at manipulating people, especially a certain kind of person (she seems clueless about the rest of us). Before she had Trig, she seems to have dragged Piper around as both her shield and her badge of honor. But Piper is growing up. How much more effective is a little baby that doesn't only evokes that working mom image, but also creates blatant parallels to the Madonna (did everyone see that exhibition of photos of Sarah as Madonna that opened in Rome?). Having all those children, and supposedly "choosing" to have a DS baby, are a HUGE part of her appeal to the TeamSarah crowd. Surely she must have foreseen that.

Those of you familiar with Sarah's schedule, was she really in her office 4 December when she claims to have received the call from the doctor telling her about the amnio?

And Audrey and Co, if another post will be a while in coming, why not simply put up an "opening another thread" post?

Molly said...

To Littl' Me:

In the GVS interview, Bristol says that "it was during the summer; school had just gotten out"...but it is unclear if she means that is when she got pregnant, when she discovered she was pregnant, or when she announced the news to her parents. So, in my mind, this statement doesn't have much bearing.

I think all the info I've seen is entirely consistent with Bristol and Levi being parents to both little boys.

Punkinbugg said...

Upon reviewing the Palin kids' travel expenses, the first thing that jumps out at me is -- they are purchasing separate, refundable one way tickets every time these kids travel.

So what? you might ask.

Well, refundable full fare tickets can be purchased on a round-trip basis, so why purchase separate one-way tickets?

Maybe because refundable one-way tickets are easy to exchange...?

For example, a really savvy person could take those full-fare tickets and exchange them for cheaper, non-refundable tickets, and pocket the difference.

One would have to examine the date the tickets were ordered vs. the date of travel to see if a cheaper, non-refundable ticket could have been purchased. (Most non-refundable tickets require a 21-day advance purchase.)

Does Alaska state travel policy that prohibits the purchase of non-refundable tickets? For most companies, it's usually the other way 'round. If the company is trying to save money, that is.

ALSO: Does anybody know what "travelled via DPS A/C" mean? Is that code for private aircraft, because there is no airfare listed...?

Punkinbugg said...

I just answered my own question:

From the Alaska State Travel Policy:

"The best fare does not require the purchase of nonrefundable tickets; agencies should make this business decision based on the nature of the travel."

GET THIS:

"Travelers and approvers are required to document reasons for declining savings where the lowest available airfare is not purchased."

Exactly where are the documented reasons they couldn't purchase cheaper tickets -- for events that are planned months in advance?

NAMES ON TICKETS: "Department travel desks must confirm the name on the traveler’s
government-issued ID card before an airline ticket is issued. The airline ticket must be issued in the name on the driver’s license or government-issued ID card."

Piper is not a government employee...

"Excess costs, circuitous routes, delays, or luxury accommodations unnecessary or unjustified in the performance of official state business travel are not acceptable. The traveler will not be reimbursed for any additional costs that result from unauthorized travel arrangements."

Speaking of circuitous routes, why did they overnight in Anchorage each way when traveling between Juneau and Fairbanks -- in MARCH 2008 -- when there are direct flights and easy connections?

More hmmmm.

Patrick said...

Regarding the babyfood-issue:

Yes, it would certainly be possible that somebody gave this jar to SP for promotional reasons - and that it was just on her desk coincidentally. This is entirely possible.

The baby-food issue is just a relatively minor point in the whole story. There are more exciting discoveries happening right now, and I can tell you that currently quite a lot is going on behind the scenes. SP shouldn't feel too safe.

Patrick (PD research)

Anonymous said...

Midnightcajun

That is an interesting question that you ask about the 4th December 2007 and the phone call from her doctor giving news of Trig's Down's Syndrome.

Unfortunately I am unable to confirm whether or not SP was in her office in Anchorage on that date. But I do want to say that that date is an interesting one as it is the anniversary of the day that she took office as governor. Not a date that she would likely forget I think........so easy to recall when questioned by pesky reporters!

Kathleen

sandra said...

The baby food jar was probably just a "prop" on the desk. That would explain it being in two pictures months apart. Containing Alaska salmon was the relevant part. The stage three is probably the first time salmon is introduced into baby food. The stage of the baby food says nothing about the age of the baby. As a dietitian I can give many examples of babies being given inappropriate foods.

Can we consider the salmon a red herring? :-)

Anonymous said...

Diana

Could you please post a link to the story about the prom?

Thank you

Kathleen

B said...

Amy1 said...If SP was never pregnant, the letter has to be a fake -- there's no other possibility. And we KNOW SP was not pregnant. So the letter is either faked by CBJ, faked by SP, or altered by SP.

Amy1 and others, I don't think the CBJ letter is true. Period. But I also don't think everything in it is false.

For CBJ's plausible deniability, I still try to figure out what the doctor had to lie about to keep the deception going and what she didn't. I just don't see her lying gratuitously. Nor do I see her allowing Palin to add gratuitous lies.

She puts in far more info on Trig than is needed to show Sarah can be VP, so I think most of it could be true.

Just because she lied about Sarah delivering Trig doesn't mean she lied about when he was able to go home. It's not an undisputable fact against Trig being in an NICU, but it is something to weigh. That's all I meant.

B said...

Re: Trig's health issues

JillyG's poignant post this weekend about her DS baby suggests that parts of the Trig story could be true: born a month early but at a weight that could be full term, hole in the heart that did not require intervention, fed on breastmilk pumped by his mother.

B said...

Re: travel records

While very, very useful (thanks, Diana and others!), remember that family members could have had plane trips not shown because Sarah never tried to pass their expenses on to the state. (Couldn't find a raffle drawing to justify them, or whatever!)

We may conclude someone went somewhere if a flight is included, but we can't conclude for certain that she stayed there just because we don't see the return flight.

Mary G. said...

Thanks, Penny, for alerting us to Gryphen's heroic (and hilarious) readings of Sarah Palin!
I am very curious about this Dec. 4 date as to when Palin found out that Trig had Down Syndrome, as she has given different versions of that before--at 12-13 weeks; 16 weeks; and mid-way through the pregnancy. Anyway, we know that about a week later she was posing for Vogue magazine:
http://tinyurl.com/6w5sn2.
And the cover photos for the Alaska Magazine Feb. 2008 shoot were done in November 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/cp52wm.
Also in light of this Dec. 4 date, I recall her story about how she told no one about the testing until the weekend, when Todd returned (from work?)--so I wonder if this timetable is backed up by hers or Todd's schedule.

B said...

Re: Blog comments.

I have seen several comments about the Palins on other blogs where people authoritatively state things that they know or that the locals know or some such. I'd love to believe them, but have no way of knowing that they aren't bogus, or even meant to mislead by appearing to be on our side.

For example, I saw one from September where someone insisted that Bristol had been admitted to MatSu at some point for her mono, and that this had been in the newspapers. Yet Audrey found no evidence that Bristol even had mono.

Another said that Levi was already a dad by a 13-year-old, and acknowleging that he fathered Trig could have drawn attention to that stautory rape. Wouldn't someone in Wasilla have leaked that by now?

Only slightly better are the tabloid-ish tidbits, like Trailblazer saying Bristol lived with Aunt Heather while pregnant, which fits better with Trig than Tripp. Or Inside Edition on 9/2/8 saying Bristol left Wasilla High mid-year because she was pregnant, thinking they are talking the then-current pregnancy when those facts fit better with Trig. These suggest Bristol is Trig's mom but aren't reliable enough sources to prove it.

cooky said...

Ok, found a link to the baby food issue.

http://www.afdf.org/current_projects/index.html

Apparently the Alaska Fisheries Development Foundation, Inc. received a grant to work with Beech Nut in developing baby foods featuring Alaska's wild salmon. The new baby food, stage 3 is the first to contain seafood, and was rolled out in March/April 2008. Seems plausible that it was on her desk and visible in photos for promotional reasons and may have nothing to do with feeding Trig. The jar in the photo at the link looks like the jar on her desk.

B said...

Re: Dangling liver-gate.

Palin's medical letter closely tracks Obama's medical letter. I believe Obama's letter was used as a model.

Palin's letter contains the major medical events of her pregnancies, while Obama has had no major medical events since he has gone to the doctor who wrote the letter.

One paragraph in each letter is devoted to the latest physical exam, and both mention blood pressure and pulse.

Obama's following paragraph discusses tests, both laboratory and EKG. His triglyceride and cholesterol numbers are given, followed by "Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal."

In Palin's next paragraph, CBJ explains that she has not given Palin liver tests (like Chem24) and an EKG. But what about triglycerides, cholesterol, urinalysis and CBC?

She probably can't say she's never given a 44-year-old those routine tests. So why doesn't CBJ include those results, or at least say the results were normal?

And if she wasn't going to give any results for them, why even mention that she hasn't done the liver tests? The result of the dangling liver sentence has heightened its importance, causing speculation as to what the liver tests would have shown.

I wonder what the routine blood and urine tests did show.

I think CBJ would have worded the paragraph differently if she intended to give no test results at all. So I suspect Palin had CBJ's references to routine bood and urine tests removed. But why?

Would routine blood and urine tests not be "normal" if she really gave birth six months earlier, so that saying they were normal would give away the lie? Or did Palin just not like her numbers, thinking they showed she ate too much moose meat? Anyone?

Doubting Thomas said...

As Governor of her State, Sarah could grant Clemency to Johnston.
http://www.slate.com/id/2131268/

and

http://inthenews.berkeleylawblogs.org/2007/07/30/franklin-zimring-on-governors-granting-clemency/

Maybe that is what Rex Butler is counting on after hearing Johnston's story.

anne s said...

Regarding the Baby Food..

I, personally, think the first photo of her yapping on the phone with the full baby bottle and fresh jar of baby food, and a quiet, wrapped up snuggly baby are all props for this photo shot

Bad judgement..if this is the case, as the baby food YES is for older babies.

Just looking initially at the photo, my impression was this photo was staged to show this super mom able to feed/bottle, and rock a little infant to sleep while handing GOV business (hence the phone)
I bet there isnt even anyone on the other line

Windy City Woman said...

Penny, regarding Lauden, maybe Sarah gave her the red shoes to sell on eBay, and told her she could keep the money (or part of it), in thanks for subbing for Bristol. Or maybe she let Lauden sell them because she thought it would look tacky for the governor to sell them herself. However, whoever sold them obviously had to get them from the governor. It's tacky either way.

And regarding Sherry, maybe Sarah is paying her hush money so that she won't tell the truth about Trig. If Levi & Bristol are his biological parents, surely Sherry knows it. Maybe that is how Sherry can pay for that hot-shot lawyer. So Sarah is paying for him indirectly? Otherwise, Sherry could tell the truth to the media (People, e.g.) for money, humiliating Sarah.

AKPetMom said...

I was super bored this afternoon and went looking for the last posts on some of the other threads on this blog and found this from Regina on 2/26:

http://fin.admin.state.ak.us/dof/financial_reports/resource/SB155Report2008.pdf

It's a very concise travel report for Palin from the state website for 2008. It's in spreadsheet form and I used my browsers "find" function for the word "palin" and could find all of her entries w/out having to search thru the rubble.

Have any of the factfinders here used this site? It has way too many details for too wide of a range of dates but perhaps someone could find it useful.

Mary G. said...

Here's my theory about the Sherry Johnston trial strategy: Defense will claim that defendant was set up by police and that evidence may have been planted on her (or it was just her personal supply of oxy from a doctor's perscription), but what Sherry was peddling was information about Palin (plus pictures). In between meeting the "journalists" from News of the World, the National Enquirer, and People, maybe Sherry thought she was meeting yet another pair of reporters. I'm sure that a good defense attorney need only point out that certain pictures and information about some teenagers' whereabouts would command a lot more that $800.00.
Case closed!

Amy1 said...

Patrick: "There are more exciting discoveries happening right now, and I can tell you that currently quite a lot is going on behind the scenes."

So tell us!


Re: CBJ letter. No need to think about what CBJ might have meant. CBJ could not have written it, because it gives the impression the SP was preg and we know she was not.

The real CBJ would not need to use the Obama letter are a guide -- she has surely written hundreds if not thousands of such letters in her career, and surely she has her own format.

Sure, CBJ might have written something, but clearly if she wrote any part of it, it was altered to give this entirely false impression that SP was preg.

So we have to put that letter aside. It's a fake.

Vaughn said...

Been doing some digging on the laws passed and signed during the 25th session.Well there
is a bill( SB149 )That was signed into law on April 19 2008 and went into effect 90 days
later on July 18 2008.
This is the bill that SP said she signed on the 18th at 5:00pm.Well either she told a lie
or the Senate Journal did.

Also on the schedule for April 18 it says Bristol,interview assistance set up with KTUU.
I was wondering why Lori Tipton did,nt say anything about that when she was interviewed
by someone on Andrew Sullivan,s blog.All she said was well that girl did,nt look like
she just had a baby 7hrs ago.

It also has interview with KTVA and ADN.There were no interviews with them that I could
find until that monday when she went into the office.
Kyle Hopkins from ADN had a piece on the 19th that was a interview with Palin spokeswoman
Sharon Leighow.

Punkinbugg said...

OK -- I went through all 142 pages of the Piper/Willow/Bristol travel expenses and put everything into a spreadsheet (Just like I do for my road-warrior clients.)

I isolated the travel between 1/1/08 and 5/31/08, and what emerges is the clear absence of Bristol, and I see that Willow does not travel quite as much as Piper, either.

How Piper managed to go to school, I'll never know.

And Bristol. Looks like Bristol was living in Anchorage the whole time.

She made ONE TRIP during this period. The travel report says she flew from ANC to Fairbanks on FEB 14, with a return on FEB 16. This was to attend the end of the Iron Dog Race as well as the infamous AHA "Go Red for Women" luncheon.

NOTE: Piper and Willow flew from JUNEAU instead of Anchorage.


There are 8 other major events in the ANCHORAGE AREA where her presence would have been ... Expected? PHOTOGRAPHED??

Since she already lived in ANC, there would be no reason for her to fly like her sisters did (from Juneau).

According to the OFFICIAL STATE TRAVEL REPORTS, here are the eight events taking place around Anchorage or Wasilla:


1. Alaska Outdoor Council Banquet FEB 9

2. Start of Iron Dog Race FEB 10

3. First Family/Iditarod MAR 1

4. First Family/Classroom/School Visits MAR 19

5. First Family/Inaugural Luncheon MAR 21

6. First Family/Governor's Prayer Breakfast w/Franklin Graham MAR 22

7. First Family/AA State Basketball Trophy Presentation MAR 23

8. First Family/Reading to Christian School, Wasilla APR 4

Willow and Piper attended all of these events.


Did Bristol?

mdlw56 said...

Regarding the GVS interview...the reason I mentioned it was the fact that Bristol was in school that whole year (2006-07) before Trig. Yet, not so for the 2007-08 school year, after Trig's birth.

GVS asked what happened at school. Bristol did not say she was already out of school at that time. Instead, Bristol said it was after school was out, early summer, like it was Trig she was talking about, not Tripp.

Truthseeker2 said...

AKPetMom, thanks for this link of travel expenses -- excellent find! And I found that you can get the report for other years by simply changing the date in the url -- so we can now keep ourselves busy for a few more days scouring this stuff...

B said...

mdlw56 said...
"GVS asked what happened at school. Bristol did not say she was already out of school at that time. Instead, Bristol said it was after school was out, early summer, like it was Trig she was talking about, not Tripp."

Using official birthdates:

Trig, born 4/18/8, begun 7/18/7.

Tripp, born 12/27/8, begun 3/27/8.

After 2006-7 school year was out, Bristol wasn't yet pregnant with Trig.

After 2007-8 school year was out, Bristol was 2 mos. along w/Tripp.

I think Bristol was talking about Tripp. I also think she was closer to one month pregnant, so she found out and told her parents in early summer after school ended

Daniel Archangel said...

Punkinbugg wrote:

According to the OFFICIAL STATE TRAVEL REPORTS, here are the eight events taking place around Anchorage or Wasilla:

1. Alaska Outdoor Council Banquet FEB 9
2. Start of Iron Dog Race FEB 10
3. First Family/Iditarod MAR 1
4. First Family/Classroom/School Visits MAR 19
5. First Family/Inaugural Luncheon MAR 21
6. First Family/Governor's Prayer Breakfast w/Franklin Graham MAR 22
7. First Family/AA State Basketball Trophy Presentation MAR 23
8. First Family/Reading to Christian School, Wasilla APR 4

Willow and Piper attended all of these events.


You are sure that Willow and Piper attended? It gives that reason on the travel form, but if so why did the Palins have to reimburse? We know the girls were at the AHA luncheon because of the numerous reports. But do we have pictures or other proof that they actually attended these events, so did Mom just bring them on the trips because otherwise there would be nobody in Juneau to stay with them?

Let's all try not to state things as fact unless there is independent corroboration. That's a recipe for mistakes and false assumptions. Notice the repetition of 'First Family', probably trying to make the visit sound official -- which it would be for SP but not her kids, necessarily. But she may have indicated that on the form to get reimbursement -- and why these records created the controversy in the first place and she had to pay the money back.

Bottom line: attendance by Willow and Piper at these events is still an open question. It seems unlikely that Bristol attended. Pictures anywhere?

Dangerous

Mary G. said...

AKPetMom and Punkinbugg, thanks for the additonal sources, and for the breakdown of events, Punkinbugg. You are absolutely right that there was no reason Bristol could not have attended some winter/spring events with the rest of the First Family in 2008.
Someone mentioned the long car drive back to Anchorage/Wasilla from Fairbanks, and that it might have been hard on Piper--true, but Palin thinks nothing about putting this child on airplanes at midnight and flying her around all over the place. There is a Fairbanks event on March 8, 2008--see the boxnet schedule--and it says "Piper attended--Fairbanks Performing Arts Event on Governor's behalf (FBKS--Performing Arts Center)." Is this even legal? How does a 6-7 year old attend an event? Perhaps Nanny went along with her, but why is this even necessary? What in the world does Sean Parnell do, if Palin must resort to sending her elementary-school-aged daughter to events as her representative?
Anne S.--yes, Palin does like those staged photo ops of babe-in-arms, with bottle, while chatting on the phone (to Dick Cheney or John McCain, probably!).
A Sept. piece in the Anchorage Daily News confirms Heather Bruce saying that Bristol lived with her "last Spring"--i.e., 2008:
http://tinyurl.com/as4f36

B said...

Amy1 said... "The real CBJ would not need to use the Obama letter are a guide -- she has surely written hundreds if not thousands of such letters in her career, and surely she has her own format."

I disagree. This is undoubtedly the first time CBJ wrote a public letter for a national candidate.

Traditionally -- no legal requirement -- Presidential candidates release medical records to show they are healthy enough to serve four years. McCain allowed access (sort of) to his medical records. Biden released his. Obama instead had his doctor write a letter containing what they believed was pertinent.

So then it was Palin's turn and the press demanded she release her medical records. She dithered a while and then lied and said she would release records. No surprise she and CBJ decided that if a summary letter instead was good enough for the Democratic Presidential candidate it was good enough for the other party's VP.

And so CBJ used Obama's letter as a guide for what to include.

Palin won the gamble. She released the letter on election eve and lost the next day, so the press never called her on any of it, not even Piper's birth year. They just let it all drop. The MSM never thought who birthed Trig mattered anyway. Palin's doctor said she was healthy and could be VP, so that was it.

The letter will matter if Palin runs for Pres. in 2012. Probably not for AK Gov. or Senator in 2010 since not traditional to release medical records for those offices.

Yes, those of us convinced that Sarah did not give birth to Trig know that the letter contains false information. But that doesn't make everything in it false. For example, most people here assumed the jaundice part was true, not that it had anything to do with Palin's health. Audrey thought the letter was worth posting about. I think its content may contain clues. But who knows.

B said...

Mary G. said...
"Here's my theory about the Sherry Johnston trial strategy: Defense will claim that defendant was set up by police and that evidence may have been planted on her (or it was just her personal supply of oxy from a doctor's perscription), but what Sherry was peddling was information about Palin (plus pictures)."

I thought the charges were that Sherry actually sold the drugs to undercover police, not just that she arranged a sale of something and they found drugs on her.

B said...

Windy City Woman said...
"Penny, regarding Lauden, maybe Sarah gave her the red shoes to sell on eBay, and told her she could keep the money (or part of it), in thanks for subbing for Bristol."

Based on the photo on eBay, we concluded that Lauden was not the niece selling them, but it may have been the niece (on Todd's side?) in the SuperBowl photo.

Patrick said...

Amy1:

I completely agree that that the CBJ letter is nothing more than a fake. It is a "non-statement" with no legal consequences on part of CBJ whatsoever. It is not worth the piece of paper it is written on. And interestingly, it seems that there was NEVER a "real" piece of paper, but only an electronic version of this document including an electronic signature - which is something we had covered in detail in our research paper (including the legal consequences of this fact).

Amy1, I assure you that I am as impatient as you are, and I would like to get all information we have out here on the blog as soon as possible. However, sometimes there are reasons to hold back for a while until the right moment has come to go public.

What I can say right now is that the additional evidence we have gathered seems to back the theory that Bristol is the mother of Trig. It seems that we are edging nearer towards putting the pieces of the puzzle together.

Punkinbugg, thanks a lot for your efforts!! That is an excellent summary. I can only point out again that the travel documents in my opinion strongly speak against the idea that Willow is the mum, for several reasons.

Dangerous, you are an important contributor here on the blog, and I have often admired your witty and sharp thinking posts. However, I guess that we cannot come to an agreement regarding the Willow-theory right now. It's still good to discuss this theory, because this brings us further. However, I wouldn't bet any money on the Willow-theory at this point.

Somebody asked before whether the job interview that Bristol had with Princess Tours in February 2007 was successful. From the information we have, it was not. We know for certain that Bristol had summer jobs in 2007 as a Barista at the coffee shop of Nordstroms in Anchorage (June and July 2007), and another little birdie tells us that Bristol also worked at Pacsun in Anchorage in June 2007.

Confirmation about Bristol's job at Nordstrom can also be found here:

http://tinyurl.com/b8qln9

This is SP's financial disclosure form for 2007. Interestingly, Bristol's job at Pacsun is not mentioned there - why not, I have no idea.

I also would like to make you all aware of those links:

http://tinyurl.com/bltsbu

http://tinyurl.com/598kaa

I am sure that it won't take too long before the truth is out. It's a shame that nobody in the media dares to ask the right questions (including Lorenzo Benet, who apparently didn't have a clue what was really going on within the Palin/Heath family...).

And after we have established the fact who the mother of Trig is, we also have to ask the question:

Who is the father?

Patrick (PD research)

Windy City Woman said...

Amy1,

Re your posts (March 2, 6:07 & 6:29) in which you outlined a scenario with Sherry, Mr. Butler and Sarah...excellent! I think this is how things work. Are you by chance a lawyer or negotiator of some sort?

I don't know whether judges in Alaska are elected or appointed (anyone know?), but, either way, certainly some are friends of Sarah's and some are foes. Wouldn't Sherry be fortunate if she got a judge who was a "friend" of Sarah's? Can this be arranged by someone with power? Judges are supposed to "recuse" themselves(not take a case) when there is a conflict of interest, but they don't always do so. Being a hunting buddy of a future relative of the defendant is something I would consider a conflict of interest, but it doesn't mean the judge will see it that way. "Conflict of interest" seems to be in the eyes of the beholder.

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Regarding the comment (in the doctor's letter) that Trig was released from the hospital after 2 days...OK, many of us are sure that the doctor did not write the letter as released. But it still could contain some truths. Could it be that Trig was released from the hospital WHERE HE WAS BORN (after 2 days) and then transferred to another hospital, where he had heart surgery or other procedures, because, maybe, the first hospital was not the best one to deal with his problems? Maybe it was OK for childbirth, but not heart surgery.

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B,
If Bristol left school "midyear," that doesn't necessarily mean PRECISELY between semesters; it could mean any time between Thanksgiving and March, IMHO.

Punkinbugg,
Re kids having to show school IDs to board a plane...do high schools in Alaska issue them? All schools? Does anyone know?

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If Trig was born before the AHA luncheon, couldn't Bristol have attended if enough time had passed and she was feeling well? If Trig was still in the hospital, she would have been free to go. Do young moms (17) bounce back fast from childbirth?

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We have all read on this site that many photos have been removed from the Alaska web site. Can anyone narrow down when this happened? Maybe the date will be significant.

B said...

The goal was to figure out if Sarah had Trig. I think this site has shown she did not.

But since no one is listening, we need further to show that someone had a baby that Sarah would decide to claim. I'm heartened that Patrick thinks he is close to doing that.

But if the mom is Bristol (or Willow), we can easily imagine why Sarah would cover for her, and we don't need to know who the dad is. We can leave Bristol alone.

JJ said...

I feel the momentum and excitement building...
What a wonderful job Audrey, Patrick, Kathleen, etc have done and are doing!
Patrick, when do you think we will get to see a copy of SP's Financial Statement for 2008? Looking at the "received by" dates for the other statements, I am guessing that it should be submitted any day now.... interesting!!

Daniel Archangel said...

Patrick and B, in their latest posts, wonder about Trig's dad, assuming that Bristol is the mother.

One item to consider is that if you postulate that Trig was born much before 4/18, you have to assume that he was very pre-term if you want Levi to be the dad. All the evidence indicates that Bristol and Levi commenced their relationship at the beginning of the school year. If you are arguing that Trig was born in February, either he's born at six months max or someone else the daddy.

I find it highly unlikely that Levi would father two children with Bristol within a year (did he not learn the lesson the first time?), and even less likely that Bristol had two children from different men.

This circumstantial evidence is tough for Bristol = Mom x 2
(B=Mx2) theories. You have to find a NICU that housed Trig for weeks without a leak, and explain why SP waited so long to start faking when the die had already been cast. If Bristol already had the baby and nobody could prove it, and they could hide it for months while Mom did her fake, why not just say you were adopting the baby?

To Patrick: I won't put money on Willow either. But I am taking the field versus B=Mx2. Bristol either has the perfect alibi (she was pregnant when Trig was born) or she has none.

Maybe someone can answer this:

Do we have independent confirmation that Bristol did not attend school in Anchorage after January 2008? I'm not convinced we have that nailed down. If we do, what's the source?

I'm still waiting for someone to demonstrate conclusively that Willow attended school February through April 2008. Travel records say: maybe not.

Dangerous

Punkinbugg said...

Exactly. I should have said "Tickets were PURCHASED for Willow and Piper ostensibly to attend these official-sounding events, when they were just really getting the heck outta Juneau".

OK sleuths -- I've been working on this list off & on all day:

1. Alaska Outdoor Council Banquet FEB 9 ONLY pictures I found have been mentioned on THIS BLOG. (Sarah only -- in a windbreaker -- that looks too small for a baby bump.)

2. Start of Iron Dog Race FEB 10
-- Sarah only?

3. First Family/Iditarod MAR 1
found a video - Sarah only

4. First Family/Classroom/School Visits MAR 19 Not sure what school this is.

5. First Family/Inaugural Luncheon MAR 21
no pics?

6. First Family/Governor's Prayer Breakfast w/Franklin Graham MAR 22
Nothing on Franklin's website, no pics.

7. First Family/AA State Basketball Trophy Presentation MAR 23

I think there are pics of Sarah only at this event. Nothing on any of the schools' websites or booster club sites.


8. First Family/Reading to Christian School, Wasilla APR 4

This was the Wasilla Lake Church of the Nazerene. No pics on the church or school website.


I gotta get some real work done!

B said...

W.C.Woman,

If Tripp was born 12/27/08, the earliest possibility, he was conceived around 3/27/08. Bristol wouldn't have known she was pregnant with him until after March, i.e., what you define as midyear.

So if Inside Edition accurately reported what someone at Wasilla High told them (a big "if"!) they had to be talking Trig, even though they were reporting on the Tripp pregnancy.

B said...

Actually, Dangerous, I was trying to say that if Bristol or Willow is the mom, I don't wonder about Trig's dad.

conscious at last said...

Dangerous-

Bristol does not need an "alibi" - having a baby is NOT a crime. The point here is to expose SP's lies -- specifically her attempt to deceive the public by pretending that she birthed Trig.

This blog is an amazingly successful example of how we can use "the new journalism" to protect our democracy. Audrey, Patrick, Diana and others - I have endless thanks and appreciation for your work.

Amy1 said...

Patrick: I'm happy to see that you agree that the CBJ letter is worthless as info for us (let alone as proof) of anything.

For those who still think there is anything to be learned from that letter: I tried to put myself into CBJ's spot: I have just been quoted as saying something I know is not true -- the overall point of the SP letter being to verify that SP is the birth-mom of trig. Yes, there might be some true things in the letter, but it's main point is a lie.

What should I do (remember, I am CBJ)? I call my lawyer, who says "don't touch it with a l0-ft pole!" But, but, I say, my reputation! my ethical responsibility!! . . . . And the lawyer says: anyone can write a letter impersonating you, saying any outrageous thing they want. You can choose to sue them, or you can choose to ignore them. You don't have to be the policeman of the world, running after anyone who commits a crime by using your name. You have no legal obligation to comment upon or act regarding someone else who is committing a crime. But once you start talking, you are involved.

So CBJ, who I speculate does not want all the dirty linen of the Palin family to become public property, stays out of it, as is her legal right. What could be simpler.

Therefore, any tiny detail, no matter how true it might seem (like SP's age! like that date of the letter! like the little girl's birth date!) should not be viewed as confirmed or denied by this letter.

So let's pretend it does not exist. It is truly confusing if one gives a moment's thought to it, as it was intended to be. So the very thing that might in the end prove to have been a clue -- that exact thing will for sure be not right, somehow, per the CBJ letter.

Sure CBJ never wrote a letter for a VP candidate before, but these "summary of diagnosis" type letters are done all the time. If you've ever seen one done, most MDs have it down to a science, crank them out really fast (and well), with all the bases covered, for info, for the legalities, to be sure to cover everything, to represent themselves well. That's why I thought the similarity to Obama's was odd -- each MD has spent years evolving some format that works well for their specialty, their legal climate, etc.
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I am also still thinking that the AHA lunch could easily have been attended by a Bristol lookalike. If someone took a photo (which has not yet surfaced), the lookalike would just have to shake some of that long beautiful hair over her face and look down, and no ID is possible. SP would not have to reveal the why of it -- just tell the girls it's a joke -- I can think of many ways to make it fun and no big deal. No one pays attention -- I sure didn't, at first -- to the differences among all these similar-looking pretty teenagers with long hair that can hang over their faces. Remember, at that time, none of the children had been relentlessly photographed celebrities.

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My view of airport security (the only place identity is checked re tickets) is that it is a joke. The people staffing it would NOT know the difference between one Palin teen and another, if they are anything like the security staffers at every airport I've even been to (not incl Alaska's, however). School ID cards with picture? Sure, my boys have them, but we never carry them; we say we don't have anything as an ID for a 14-yr-old. Never been the slightest problem for me.


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If my hunch is right that it is on the tax records and tax issues on which you will base the killer item of proof, I say: HOW TYPICAL! They couldn't convict Al Capone of anything, although his crimes were common knowledge at the time. So they got him on some relatively insignificant tax evasion thing, and there he sat on Alctraz, just the same.

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Interesting that SP as gov could pardon Sherry, but I think that would be way too obvious+bas publicity. Ditto a favorable judge. I'm thinking more like the old "get 'em by the balls and their hearts and minds will follow" approach. Like maybe some pillar of the community needs discreet help to keep him away from foreclosure, or someone else has an icky secret that a subtle threat would be v effective with. Some powerful guy gives someone else the beady eye and says "just do it" and it's done. If it was so hard to get solid proof in Troopergate, which was littered with quotes and threats, which were then rescinded (or proof of them was), why would this be so hard. All it takes is a system built on a long tradition of crooked ways, and AK has been that for a long time. Isn't that why SP got elected? To fix that? But why fix the less visible parts, which are so hard to fix anyway, when they can be so very useful in a pinch????

And she's in a pinch. Or several. Which Palin-gate -- oh, which one, which one? -- will bust wide open first? And then all the snooopy MSM will be all over everything. Time to nail down that book deal, Sarah. Plan B is starting to look better each day.

B said...

Punkinbugg asks, "Does anybody know what "travelled via DPS A/C" mean? Is that code for private aircraft, because there is no airfare listed...?"

DPS is the acronym for the Alaska Department of Public Safety. Perhaps those were flights where they rode on state-owned planes or police helicopters.

Daniel Archangel said...

Conscious at last said:

Bristol does not need an "alibi" - having a baby is NOT a crime. The point here is to expose SP's lies -- specifically her attempt to deceive the public by pretending that she birthed Trig.


Certain it isn't a crime. "Alibi" applies more widely than just crimes. It wasn't up to us that Bristol became a part of this investigation. SP stonewalled and brought her into it by using the announcement of her pregnancy to deflect our conclusion that she had faked the pregnancy. The same assessment counts for the rest of her family because she used her family to advance the lie.

I think she had mixed motives, but she shouldn't have accepted the VP slot with this already out there. Since SP is withholding direct evidence of whether she is actually Trig's mother, we have to pursue the investigation based on circumstantial evidence. That means that we have to find a plausible alternate mother for Trig to find the Truth.

The Truth is what this effort is all about. If we find evidence that SP is, in fact, Trig's birth mother, I will accept that Truth. In that case SP is not a liar. Utterly reckless, but not a liar. We are not trying to prove SP is a liar or anything like that.

If we determine the Truth, that may make SP a liar, Bristol or Willow (or some other woman) Trig's birth mother, and the GOP and perhaps MSM complicit in a cover-up. Or, the Truth will make us all look foolish. But that will only be in retrospect. The evidence now points to SP faking the pregnancy and covering up, perhaps for Willow, perhaps for Bristol.

If we can alibi Bristol, we are one step closer to the Truth. Bristol doesn't need an alibi. We need an abili for Bristol.

Dangerous

P.S. to 'B' -- You're right. I misread the context of your comments.

mdlw56 said...

Patrick...

Regarding Trig's father, I think there is a picture of his father kissing him tenderly on the head.

pinsky said...

Hi, I've been lurking since the early days. I am intrigued by all the ways this blog has covered the issue. I have found myself chllenging my own views and becoming better about critically questioning points raised in the comments.

Thanks for keeping the discourse respectful.
Only reason I responded is my verification word is

hatted us.

Amy1 said...

Oh geez, looky here. The BBC says

"Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin are Republican stars"

and

"CNN found that 29% of Republicans wanted Alaska governor Sarah Palin to be their party's candidate in 2012 . . . . Ms Palin - who rose to prominence last year as John McCain's running-mate - has been quiet while the furore over Rush Limbaugh's remarks has raged. . . . [W]e could be hearing a lot more from her over the next few years."


And Amy1 says:

HURRY UP, PATRICK! HURRY!

ProChoiceGrandma said...

Hi Punkinbugg -
You are the travel expert - need your expertise to look even closer at the following pages of the travel authorizations: Pg 18 Piper, Page 72 Willow, Page 111 Bristol.
On 2-14-08:
Piper departs JUNEAU at 8:15 pm, arrives Fairbanks at 12:51 am.
Bristol departs ANCHORAGE at 11:55 pm, arrives Fairbanks at 12:51 am.
Is this the same flight, but with a stopover in Anchorage before going on to Fairbanks?
Piper and Bristol arrive at the exact same time in Fairbanks.
However, Willow takes a different flight from Juneau to Fairbanks, leaving Juneau at 12:44 pm and arriving in Fairbanks at 4:16 pm.
This seems very strange to me that Willow did not travel on the same flight from Juneau with her little sister Piper. But somehow Bristol and Piper end up arriving at the same time. Actually, maybe it is Lauden and Piper.
Also, those 3 pages are the amended travel authorizations. But I noticed that Page 19 shows a signature for Sarah Palin, but it is very different from all of her other signatures. Just another hmmmmm!

It still strikes me as very suspicious that little Piper drove from Fairbanks to Anchorage “with friend” on 2-17-08, almost a 7 hour drive. Something screwy is going on, IMO. Well, that’s an understatement!

Patrick said...

B,

we realised that it is in fact relevant to think about Trig's dad, because the identity of the father might have been a major reason to keep this pregnancy secret (and to fake a pregnancy on Sarah's part).

I agree with you that our blog has proven that SP wasn't pregnant. And more proof for that will follow in due course, I can already announce. And also agree that nobody wants to listen so far. We could produce 20 more pictures showing her non-pregnant in her last trimester, and the MSM still wouldn't listen. However, what the MSM and also SP herself hasn't realised yet is that blogs like our blog are able to uncover secrets in a very effective way, and that we are not a bunch of "crazies". For from it. We are ultimately doing the work for the MSM, and once the truth is out, it is quite unlikely that we will get the credit for it we deserve, because we are just a "small blog". I am convinced that everyone in the MSM media will then say "oh, I ALWAYS knew that something was wrong with Sarah's birth story".

And we are not going to stop to investigate, because we already know far too much.

By the way, Andrew Sullivan is the only person in the MSM media who really cares for this subject. He had to take a lot of abuse for it so far, and I am sure that he will not be afraid to write about it again once we have published more major evidence.

Dangerous,

the major flaw in your theory is that you still believe that Trig really was born 8-months prematurely on 18th April 2008. He was not. This was just part of SP's great deception plan. He definitely was born much earlier.

Change of topic:

The research team has not only been searching for new information about this case, but we've also started to outline and summarize the information that is now available. We are posting a series of summary outlines here so that all he bloggers can review them and give us feedback. If you see something that you don't understand, or that you disagree with, or notice something that is missing, please let us know. You should consider all of these summaries to be drafts -- works in progress.

Here are the first summaries for downloading:

1. Summary: Why SP's birth story is implausible

http://www.box.net/shared/5ni2f80hlx

2. Summary: Available accounts of Sarah Palin's labour and birth

http://www.box.net/shared/xsa7xyuale

3. Summary: Status of investigation of SP's birth story

http://www.box.net/shared/ba2euu1syk

Patrick (PD Research)

Burgh said...

Just a few quick points (I'm trying to get through the travel data, which is, to me, a really strong indication that we're getting closer to proving Bristol as the mom!):

CBJ letter: I recall it saying that Trigg "was able to go home two days after his birth" rather than he DID go home. More sneaky wording and a huge difference! CBJ's career has been greatly enhanced by her relationship with SP; I can imagine that she feels her hands are tied in disputing this letter, which doesn't seem to have hurt her career.

Trigg's early birth: I believe he was born before 4/18, and that he did spend time in the NICU. I don't believe that this would require a great conspiracy; who would really need to know the identity of the baby? He was born when SP had sky-high approval ratings, and before there was wide talk of her being a possible VP, and she's got a sister who's, well, rather fecund. I don't know that NICU nurses would be all that interested in one particular baby and his importance to SP's political career at that point... and we don't even know Trigg's last name as given to the hospital.

Dangerous' comment about not believing Levi would become a father twice in one year, having learnt his lesson: Please! First, this happens all the time, and second, what lesson? That when you have a baby you get a plum job appointment and don't have to stick around caring for the baby AND you get a new wardrobe and travel to the RNC?

Daniel Archangel said...

Patrick wrote:

Dangerous,

the major flaw in your theory is that you still believe that Trig really was born 8-months prematurely on 18th April 2008. He was not. This was just part of SP's great deception plan. He definitely was born much earlier.


Patrick, if you could prove that this would all be over. Instead, there's no evidence of it at all. You are relying on medical conjecture regarding statements in Dr. CBJ's letter about a heart condition in Trig and jaundice to conclude that there's no way Trig could go home in two days. You can't assume that the Dr. CBJ letter is true in some respects and false in others. That may be true, but you have to prove that independently.

Why would Dr. CBJ write something that would shed doubt on SP's birthing story and then the McCain campaign puts it out? Oh, right. It's a fraud written by the GOP. Then why would they put out that information?

More conjecture and assumptions. If Trig was born much earlier, find some direct evidence for it. Otherwise you don't have a case.

If you haven't noticed, for investigative stories newspapers don't publish unless they have evidence equivalent to what a lawyer would need to prove a case in court. I suggest we use the same standard before using words like "definitely".

Dangerous

Yellowgirl said...

Patrick, Kathleen, Audrey and all PD researchers-- good summaries!!!! Can we get a new thread going as the comments here have gotten LONG?

And.... any insight into what you are working on now?

Thanks!
Yellowgirl

midnightcajun said...

B, I'm with your analysis of the CBJ letter. The way I see it, she found herself in a hot spot after the interview she did in April; she's a friend of Sarah's, so when Sarah needed the doctor's letter, she said, "Go ahead and write it, release it with my electronic signature; I'll neither confirm or deny."

It is possible, however, that she provided the GOP with some of the information they used to compose the letter, hence the strange dangling reference to the nonexistent liver tests, and to Trig's heart problem (the first hint we had of that was this letter).

The way I see it, the letter may contain some useful breadcrumbs, but nothing in it--especially the statement that Trig went home at two days with his mom--should be taken at face value. That's a really weird thing to put in a letter that's supposed to be about a VP candidate's health. So weird, in fact, that it tells me it's a deliberate LIE. In other words, those of us who think Trig was born before 18 April are probably right.

I have a question for those of you with experience with DS and premature babies: could Trig be suffering from the effects of a dangerously premature birth AS WELL as from DS? I ask because I have recently seen a cousin's baby that was born at 25 weeks (released after nearly a year in hospital); while this child does not have DS, he does remind me in many respects of Trig: large head, vacant stare, very quiet and placid.

Ivyfree said...

" I am convinced that everyone in the MSM media will then say "oh, I ALWAYS knew that something was wrong with Sarah's birth story"."

And many of them may have thought so, but didn't think it was worth investigating or reporting, because it was just about a woman giving birth, and who cares about that? "It's her business." It's frustrating to give somebody the informatino and hear that back... and nobody wants to hear my response, which is "What is the reason for lying about it?" Because there was no reason that adoption couldn't have been announced. What is bad enough that Sarah was determined to lie about it? Not that, of course, lying doesn't seem to come easily to her- I'm thinking of the announcement that an investigation cleared her of ethics complaints when in fact it said plainly that she was not cleared of ethical issues.

B said...

Patrick,

If Bristol is the mother of Trig, and I believe she is, for most people that will be reason enough for Sarah to have faked a pregnancy. But maybe not for the MSM, and then you'll need to reveal the dad. I trust your judgment.

Like Dangerous, I am not convinced that Trig was born way before April 18. You say, "He definitely was born much earlier." We are not privy to everything you know. I look forward to your telling us as soon as the time is right.

I feel I am operating here with less than a full deck of cards. But I'll keep reading.

Patrick said...

You might wonder what the "Go Red Luncheon" event in Fairbanks actually looks like.

Here are lots of pictures from the 2009 event which were "officially" released:

http://tinyurl.com/cwfhuo

It is obvious that this is not a very "intimate" event, but more a big, dimly-lit fundraising party in a ballroom.

I couldn't find pictures from 2008 anywhere...

In case someone would like to contact Janet Bartels and ask for pictures from 2008, here are her contact details:

http://tinyurl.com/dz7nen

I surely would be very interested.

Patrick (PD Research)

Patrick said...

mdlw56

Yes, that's what we thought so far - that evi is Trig's father. However, we have to keep an open mind regarding the identity of the father. It is possible that the pregnancy was hidden (and SP's subsequently faked) also because the baby was from the WRONG father - and not from the current boyfriend (which would have been EXTRA embarassing for SP - apart from that, it's already pretty embarassing for ultra-conservative SP to have a sixteen-year-old pregnant daughter sitting at home.)

Sorry if this goes to far for some of you here, who would rather "leave the kids alone", but everything seems to be very closely connected, so that it would be difficult to talk about something and leave other relevant parts out.

And I don't think why it shouldn't be allowed to talk about Bristol, now where she is officially a TV-celebrity. "Leave the kids alone" doesn't apply any more IMHO.

I have doubts that Levi is the father of Trig, provided that Bristol is the mother, like I suspect. However, the final evidence is still missing, therefore these are still just assumptions.

Patrick (PD research)

Morgan said...

Pinksy said:
"Thanks for keeping the discourse respectful."

Your comment is appreciated, but let me note that Audrey's blog is fortunate to have a majority of very thoughtful, civil commenters afoot.

Anonymous said...

**MODERATOR NOTE**

Yellowgirl and others:

Audrey's been away for a bit but she's back now. Hang on; I do believe you can expect something from her soon. I know the lull can be frustrating, but she has put so much of herself into this blog and given that she also has a family and a business and other things going on there are times when she has to take care of other things.

Fortunately, Patrick, Kathleen, Mary G and others in the PD Research Team (and there are others who work very hard as well) have been busy in her absence to keep discussion moving here.

I think we all owe them a major round of applause for filling this temporary void left by the blog owner's absence.

LisanTX said...

Two thoughts:

In the April 2008 Elan video, when SP is shown in her kitchen, SP is asked if she "know[s] what it is"--referring to her pregancy with Trig and did she know if the baby was a boy or girl. Around 6:42 in the clip she answers quickly, in a high-pitched tone "It's a boy!" I know this isn't evidence of the nature Dangerous seeks, but as an older, intuitive woman/mother, that answer sounds to me like the happy answer a proud grandma or aunt gives when asked about the new baby in her family. It doesn't sound like the normal response from a mother about her unborn baby, imo.

So I view this as a clue, which I continue to investigate. Although I am an attorney and very fact-oriented, I have also learned not to discount my intuition. It can provide information, which often is verified later.

Here is a link to the video:
http://tinyurl.com/aztkyk

Second:

Like Patrick, I also think that the identity of the father (or person believed to be the father) could have been a reason for the ruse.

Remember when Levi was announced to the public, he was introduced as the "young man" Bristol will marry. My ears perked up when I first heard that terminology. Imo, that sounds like another clue. (Not to mention the rumors of partying,the MySpace of the boy who "loved" Bristol, etc.)

September 1, 2008

ARLINGTON, VA -- Today, Sarah and Todd Palin issued the following statement regarding today's Reuters story:

"We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us. Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support.

"Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi's privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates."

I believe that it's a good idea to investigate clues. Could be a deadend; could be a lead.

My thanks to everyone here for investigating this matter to find the Truth and for holding elected offials accountable.

Ohio mom said...

Patrick, I have felt all along that Dr. CBJ's silent involvement indicated that she was protecting some young person, not Sarah Palin. I think Dr. CBJ gave Sarah permission to release a generic letter over her signature, then SP and her associates created the letter using Obama's as a guide.

Also, I agree that Trig was born earlier and that SP didn't decide to claim him as her own until McCain wrapped up the nomination. I think SP claimed him for two reasons. She was protecting Bristol from close scrutiny and she did not want the circumstances of his birth, whatever they are, to become a campaign distraction.

If Levi is not the father of Trig, his tender kiss on the baby's head during the RNC was an expression of his love for Bristol, who is the mother of his son Tripp.

I wonder if Anne Kilkenny, the Wasilla community watchdog, also knows the circumstances of Trig's birth and is protecting Bristol.

Patrick, I'm glad that you and the PD team have more relevant evidence. I guess you will publish when the time is right.

Maybe you've already covered this, but are you British or Canadian? I ask because of the spelling variations.

Anonymous said...

B and Yellowgirl

Think about it as lining up all our little duckies in a row........

Toy ones that is....I personally could never shoot any living creature!

I am not sure that Sarah would refrain from shooting though and for that very reason it is best for us to keep silent about some things that we are currently investigating until we are 100 per cent sure what it all means. We are sure that you understand our reasoning, frustrating as it is.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I would also like to say a very big thank you to everyone here for contributing so much over the past weeks and months. Your comments and insights have proved especially valuable and a major boost to us whilst we have been struggling under the mound of information we have uncovered/received over the past while. You are all the true unsung heroes and I know that.

Thanks again.

Kathleen

Anonymous said...

Ohio Mum

Patrick is neither British or Canadian......

And I should know ;-)

Kathleen

ProChoiceGrandma said...

I keep going back to the first family picture taken on 9-14-07. To me, Bristol appears to be at least 3 ½ to 4 months pregnant, in which case Trig’s birth could easily have been full term in mid February 2008, but late January/early February 2008 if he was born premature as with many Down Syndrome babies. He most likely had to stay in NICU with difficulties associated with Down Syndrome, maybe heart, maybe feeding issues. I don’t trust ANYTHING in the letter purportedly from CBJ. We know Sarah Palin did not give birth to Trig, therefore CBJ is complicit in the lies and loses all credibility. I can understand if CBJ was trying to protect the privacy of a teenage girl, but the protection should have ended when Bristol got pregnant again and Sarah Palin put Bristol on the national stage to protect Sarah’s image. Perhaps in her own way, CBJ is now acknowledging that Sarah faked the pregnancy by her silence. Back in the spring of 2008, CBJ may not have had any idea Sarah was a potential VP candidate and it may not have seemed like a big issue. CBJ could help in the cover-up even if Sarah was the Governor because it was basically a local problem and Sarah could control all the local folks. Well, that blew up in her face!

I do not believe Sarah knew Bristol was pregnant until shortly after this official 9-14-07 photo. Perhaps when it became apparent and Bristol had to spill the beans, that is when Sarah hauls Bristol to “visit” the HUD Juneau Christian Teen Center on 10-5-07. Perhaps there are counselors there to give advice on what to do with a wayward Assembly of God pregnant teen that did not abstain? [maybe even a witch hunter to cast out the demons – Morgan, please allow me this one little snark ;-)]

This scenario would make conception approximately mid-late May 2007. Prom?
Trig pregnancy May 2007 – February 2008
Tripp pregnancy April 2008 – January 2009
I don’t believe for a minute that Tripp was born on 12-27-08. I believe he was born in late January and we saw a 3 week old full term baby on Greta’s interview of 2-15-09.

One more thing – I recently saw a 7 week old baby who was a preemie. He looked like he was 2 days old. Compared to this baby, my babies were ready to start kindergarten when they were born!

Bristol works as a barista at Nordstrom coffee shop in Anchorage June & July 2007 making $8.25/hr according to Sarah Palin’s 2008 Financial Disclosure Statement. Sarah did not indicate Bristol’s total earnings even though she did list Track’s total earnings for his 2 summer jobs. But wait, didn’t Bristol’s aunt say Bristol worked at a coffee shop referring to Bristol’s pregnancy with Tripp? I can hardly wait to see Sarah Palin’s 2009 Financial Disclosure Statement.

My antenna is raised regarding a combination of events in February 2008:
1) 2-8-08 Bristol had a traffic accident in Wasilla outside of a local medical facility. If she was still pregnant, I think that would have raised a lot of alarms that someone 8/9 months pregnant was in an accident. I believe Bristol had already given birth to Trig before this date, and possibly she was at the medical facility for a post-partum checkup, or visiting Trig. Do we know the name of the other driver involved in the accident? What is the name of the medical facility and what are their main functions? Wouldn’t it be funny if it was a Planned Parenthood facility?

2) 2-15-08 AHA “Go Red for Women” luncheon. The travel authorizations for Bristol, Willow and Piper raise a lot of questions. The airfare for Willow and Piper were purchased 2-8-08. The airfare for Bristol was purchased 2-13-08. I noted in a post last night about their departures and arrivals that need closer scrutiny by our travel expert. Why did Willow take an earlier flight from Juneau than the one Piper flew later that day from Juneau? How is it that Bristol and Piper arrived at the exact same time, but Bristol coming from Anchorage and Piper coming from Juneau? We know a “friend” was also there for the Iron Dog race and that Piper’s airfare was refunded because little Piper supposedly “drove from Fairbanks to Anchorage with friend, Refunded ticket.” Wow, a 7 hour drive for a 7 year old, in February, in Alaska.

3) I started this last night and I just saw Patrick’s posts from this morning! It is amazing the HUGE number of photos from the 2009 AHA Go Red for Women luncheon, but NONE from 2008??? Was there a celebrity for the 2008 luncheon? Did Sarah and First Kids attend the 2009 luncheon?

4) When exactly was the date in February 2008 that John McCain telephoned Sarah? I saw it somewhere but now I can’t find it. Prior to this time, hiding Bristol’s pregnancy was simply a matter of protecting Bristol’s honor. Did the call from McCain elevate into the smokescreen of the wearing of scarves and coming up with a plan to impress the “base”? Everything Sarah does is politically motivated; we know that for a fact.

I also find it very unusual that Sarah never purchased any maternity clothes for herself for this pregnancy. There are some really nifty maternity outfits and suits in this 21st century, but the only actual maternity outfit we see is the black getup she wore for the Gusty interview on 4-13-08. Her “conservative base” will appreciate that she was being fiscally responsible by not spending money for a fake pregnancy. Add that to your platform, Sarah. Rush will applaud you for that. I am sure there are many other dimwits who will praise her for that, also, to.

I really feel late January/early February 2008 was a very significant period which will put the final nail in the coffin. I strongly believe Trig was born in that time period. Trig’s announced birth of 4-18-08 was just a smokescreen to allow time to keep him hidden in a NICU facility or private care nurse until Sarah could develop a six-week pregnancy into political gain.

Patrick, I am anxious to get started reading the summaries you have drafted. I have a favor to ask – would you please use page numbering on your next or updated reports? This would make it much easier for everyone to locate a specific point for commentary or research. Thanks! What a great team Audrey, Morgan, Patrick, Kathleen, Mary G, Diana and many others!

Punkinbugg said...

Hi ProChoiceGramma,

You are correct -- looking at the current flight schedules on Alaska Airlines, there are zero nonstops from Juneau to Fairbanks. All flights either land in Anchorage, continuing to Fairbanks or you have to change planes in Anchorage.

I'm certain that Piper and "Bristol" were on the same plane - on the ANC to FAI leg of the trip, that is.

Is there a similar report for the Governor? Would she have put Piper on such a late flight by herself? Or was she on that flight, too?

Earlier that day, Willow's plane either stopped in ANC or she changed planes in ANC with a one hour layover. (Today's AS midday schedule shows a change of planes.)

Interestingly, Willow and Piper's OUTBOUND tickets were purchased at the exact same time on 2/8/08.

Some time later that day, their tickets from Fairbanks to ANC were also purchased at the exact same time. Later still that day two MORE tickets were purchased from ANC to JNU on 2/8/08. Each pair of tickets I mention have consecutive ticket numbers.


Bristol's outbound ticket was purchased ONE day prior to travel (2/13/08), and her return ticket was purchased on 2/14/08, for travel on 2/16/08, or 2 days prior.


ALASKA TAXPAYERS, this is important. Why would they purchase separate one way tickets to an annual event just a few days prior to that event, which unavoidably requires paying the absolute highest refundable fare??


Ohhh and good catch on page 19, different signature. She almost always dots the "i" in Palin.


I smell a new "gate".

B said...

Patrick,

"Mum's" the word that gave you away as speaking like the Canadians and British.

Patrick said...

Dangerous, B:

Yes, you are right, it still too early to say that Trig "definitely" was born earlier than 18th April 2008. There are strong indications for that assumption, but you are right, the final proof is not there yet.

Patrick (PD research)

Patrick said...

Oh, we have something new:

Here is a video-clip from the luncheon in Fairbanks in 2009:

http://tinyurl.com/b7mu9j

Can anyone find something from 2008?

Patrick (PD research)

Ohio mom said...

ProChoiceGrandma, by the way, great name. But, about that 9-14-07 family picture, didn't Audrey et al determine that the actual date is from the fall of 06?

I, too, am amazed at all the one-way tickets they buy. Maybe someone in Alaska could tell us if this is usual. Because of the lack of roads, people in Alaska seem to fly when those of us in the lower 48 just drive. Are airline tickets priced differently in Alaska? Perhaps Alaska in-state, round trip tickets are not discounted.

It still amazes me that Sarah seems to take the girls out of school at the drop of a hat. This leads me to ask if Alaskan schools are not very rigorous. I know they have a very high drop-out rate. Maybe everyone who stays enrolled passes?

Patrick said...

ProChoiceGrandma,

thanks a lot for your excellent post and your great observations!

I agree 100% especially with the first paragraph in your post. This is exactly my opinion, too.

Regarding the family picture from 14th Sept 2008: Yes, I also strongly believe that Bristol is about 3 months pregnant in this picture. And she is wearing a real "camouflage dress", which makes it actually quite difficult to see the exact size of her belly.

Note that she is also quite puffy in the face.

Thankfully we have the picture in XL-size, and the shape of the belly becomes much clearer here:

http://tinyurl.com/abptnx

I can tell you that we have uncovered some pieces of evidence that suggest that SP actually knew at this point in September 2008 that Bristol was pregnant. Unfortunately, and this is also frustrating for me and I apologise for that, we cannot reveal the source right now.

In general I think that your antenna is raised in the right direction - also regarding the date of Trig's birth, although the final evidence is not there yet. ProChoiceGrandma, good to have you here!

Patrick (PD research)

sandra said...

Patrick at 10:42. Please correct your dates. That was not 2008, and 2008 September was after the pregnancy announcement (with Tripp).

Patrick said...

Hi sandra,

you are correct, of course! I made a mistake there. I wanted to say that the family picture was taken on 14th September 2007, not 2008.

Patrick (PD research)

Littl' Me said...

Patrick March 5, 2009 10:42 AM

You meant to say Sept. '07, right?
(That blown-up pic is a definite 'baby' bump - that is not a 'chubby teen' bump!

Patrick said...

sandra,

I blame it on a case of "blogging fatigue": I also meant of course that...

"...we have uncovered some pieces of evidence that suggest that SP actually knew at this point in September 2007 that Bristol was pregnant."

(and not 2008)

:-)

Patrick (PD research)

TappanTrailer said...

Patrick,

I finally registered....was a previous "anonymous" poster pre registration requirements.

Is it possible to email you (instead of posting) re: luncheon photos?

Thx-

TappanTrailer said...

Karen,

I'm exactly - or almost exactly - on board with you.

1. BP was pg w/ Trig

2. Motive for SP to cover it up at ALL costs: Potential VP nod, and her political aspirations in general. Any other motives are just icing on the cake.

3. Earlier than reported due date AND birth; time spent NICU. Birth was likely before AHA luncheon.

4. DS unknown prior to birth if BP is mom, I really don't think trisomy 21 prenatal testing is "common place" or routine for a pg teen or younger mother. The amnio story from SP is just that; a story to support HER being pg. Regarding CBJ calling SP to deliver the news? Yeah, SP can say anything she wants because CBJ just cannot refute anything without compromising patient confidentiality, true or not.

5. I'm not entirely sure that they had planned to adopt this infant out, but maybe it was a possibility until DS was discovered. I think SP may have planned all along to adopt the baby and pass off as her own. I actually *really* believe that they had adoption paperwork done prior to the birth as a way to get Trig on SP's ins immediately.

6. The CBJ letter. I would put no credence in this, but do view it as yet another pack of Palin lies to CBJ. It was either A) a fake, B) manipulated after it was written or C) rhetorical medical history info fed to CBJ by Palin herself. MD records are always chock full of history that is patient provided and not indicated in records, except elsewhere. Prior pregnancy info is a great example of that, whereas if someone had a pacemaker inserted last year, the family MD may very well want the cardio records for their own file rather than just using the patient's version of history for documentation.

7. Theories of conspiracy and "it would be too hard to hide" "too difficult to involve hospitals and staff" etc. HIPAA laws are so strict that they virtually handcuff medical personnel from even correcting incorrect info, much less confirming anything at all. I have no doubt that if Trig was in an NICU with his FULL Palin name on him that no hospital staff would have breathed a word, and still won't to this day. To refute anything is to compromise patient confidentiality just the same as if they confirmed anything.

I think Diana & Patrick are on the right track....IMHO.

Tami

Patrick said...

Hi TappanTrailer,

yes, of course it would be great if you could email me!

My email is:

patrick12344 (at) yahoo.com

I have now updated my profile here on blogger and included the email address.

Thanks a lot in advance!

Patrick (PD research)

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